I just talked to Matthias Schrem from Backbone He does really apologies for the inconvenience of spamming (backbone and providerliste). Their opt-out function should work as well as the abuse-desk.
Mybe we should give them a chance ? Cheers -Lukas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] Backbone Solutions is spamming again. Daniel Lorch wrote: >> I'm interested in why de-peering is seen as an appropriate response >> to the spamming issue. What is the desired result? What relief does >> this bring to the victims of the spam? Or is this only used as a way >> to censure the offending network? >> >> Help me determine why I should de-peer with AS13250. ;-) > > Maybe because that makes them pay for their spamming traffic? Or maybe > because there is nothing else you could do? :) Just to show them that you do not agree with their business practice. 1. they sell ADSL and call it leased lines. Doing this is commonly called "unlauterer Wettbewerb" (unfair competition) 2. they advertise again and again with UCE I believe that there should be certain ethics in telecommunications business, and I don't see them in their behaviour right know. Black sheeps do harm to the whole telecommunications industry. I hope this is common sense within SwiNOG. Since you don't really loose anything with de-peering them, I suggest to do it and show them your "gratitude". If all of us do so, they might finally reconsider there business practice. Of course there is no relief for the victims of the spam, and I wouldn't consider to shutdown peering to an ISP because of a spamming customer. But in this case, it's not a customer, rather it's the ISP itself, which should have known better. F. ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
