----- Original Message ----- From: "Fredy Kuenzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] Backbone Solutions is spamming again.
> Daniel Lorch wrote: > >> I'm interested in why de-peering is seen as an appropriate response > >> to the spamming issue. What is the desired result? What relief > >> does this bring to the victims of the spam? Or is this only used > >> as a way to censure the offending network? > >> > >> Help me determine why I should de-peer with AS13250. ;-) > > > > Maybe because that makes them pay for their spamming traffic? Or > > maybe because there is nothing else you could do? :) > > Just to show them that you do not agree with their business practice. > > 1. they sell ADSL and call it leased lines. Doing this is commonly > called "unlauterer Wettbewerb" (unfair competition) > 2. they advertise again and again with UCE > > I believe that there should be certain ethics in telecommunications > business, and I don't see them in their behaviour right know. Black > sheeps do harm to the whole telecommunications industry. I hope this is > common sense within SwiNOG. > > Since you don't really loose anything with de-peering them, I suggest to > do it and show them your "gratitude". If all of us do so, they might > finally reconsider there business practice. > > Of course there is no relief for the victims of the spam, and I wouldn't > consider to shutdown peering to an ISP because of a spamming customer. > But in this case, it's not a customer, rather it's the ISP itself, which > should have known better. > > F. I admit that I wasn't paying attention to this thread before. So I checked the archive for some history. This guy does deserve a slap for spamming people with his garbage. I didn't catch that this wasn't a problem with one of his customers and/or an open relay. Although I'm still not sure what my ethics would say about cutting peering, as any loss of peering (generally speaking and almost certainly not in this case) does have an effect on my customers and my upstream. Jon ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
