Keith,

It's a specific situation where the template design is done by another
entity, and that person typically uses something like Frontpage or
Adobe Premier.  A HTML page developed by a wysiwyg editor is difficult
to *develop* in symfony without a template system which is wysiwyg
friendly.  If you merge it once (and put the PHP tags inside), it's
ok.  However, merging it 5 times is 5x the work.  We need a system
that can be embedded into the template, and Frontpage or Premier
accepts.

Naturally, I'd much rather code the template from the ground up and
make it very light.  However, when a 3rd party is involved, this
allows much better interactive development.

Mike

On Oct 19, 1:07 pm, me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see why you'd want to pile an entire templating system on top
> of the View layer of Symfony.  The whole point of the MVC is to
> standardize how your application works.  If you're finding that you've
> still got a lot of logic in your view you've gone wrong someplace
> earlier.  Try turning view logic into helpers or rolling it into your
> model.  Remember you should be striving for skinny controllers and fat
> models with little to no logic on your views.
>
> Symfony's got a pretty powerful way to handle all of this without
> requiring any sort of Smarty, HAML, etc. involvement.
>
> - Keith
>
> On Oct 16, 7:22 am, "Lucas Stephanou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hello dev's,
>
> > I'm here to start a thread about template system.
>
> > Today symfony doesn't use natively a template system to render presentation
> > layer.
> > IMHO, the genshi project[1], used in trac 0.11[2], is more efficient output
> > generator and I'm working with it in some plugins to internal use here in my
> > job.
> > All php options( OPT, Smarty, Haml port) that I knew isn't simple, clean,
> > and powerful, this in my opinion.
>
> > Well, What you think about? Is PHP a equivalent option? Start a similar
> > genshi project in PHP?
>
> > [1]:http://genshi.edgewall.org/
> > [2]:http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.11
>
> > --
> > Lucas Stephanou


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