On a couple of projects I've gone with having two clear distinct roles. In my opinion, designers are best designing and leaving any sort of markup well, well, alone. Obviously there is a little premium involved here, but hiring a designer who's one sole goal in life is to provide beautiful usable designs, and then having someone who lives, breaths and sweats css/markup perfectly translate that design from graphical format to flawless code.. sell your clients on the idea to explain away the high cost. It is most definitely worth it.
Steve Daniels On 19/10/2007, drmikecrowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Keith, > > It's a specific situation where the template design is done by another > entity, and that person typically uses something like Frontpage or > Adobe Premier. A HTML page developed by a wysiwyg editor is difficult > to *develop* in symfony without a template system which is wysiwyg > friendly. If you merge it once (and put the PHP tags inside), it's > ok. However, merging it 5 times is 5x the work. We need a system > that can be embedded into the template, and Frontpage or Premier > accepts. > > Naturally, I'd much rather code the template from the ground up and > make it very light. However, when a 3rd party is involved, this > allows much better interactive development. > > Mike > > On Oct 19, 1:07 pm, me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't see why you'd want to pile an entire templating system on top > > of the View layer of Symfony. The whole point of the MVC is to > > standardize how your application works. If you're finding that you've > > still got a lot of logic in your view you've gone wrong someplace > > earlier. Try turning view logic into helpers or rolling it into your > > model. Remember you should be striving for skinny controllers and fat > > models with little to no logic on your views. > > > > Symfony's got a pretty powerful way to handle all of this without > > requiring any sort of Smarty, HAML, etc. involvement. > > > > - Keith > > > > On Oct 16, 7:22 am, "Lucas Stephanou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hello > > dev's, > > > > > I'm here to start a thread about template system. > > > > > Today symfony doesn't use natively a template system to render > > > presentation > > > layer. > > > IMHO, the genshi project[1], used in trac 0.11[2], is more efficient > > > output > > > generator and I'm working with it in some plugins to internal use here in > > > my > > > job. > > > All php options( OPT, Smarty, Haml port) that I knew isn't simple, clean, > > > and powerful, this in my opinion. > > > > > Well, What you think about? Is PHP a equivalent option? Start a similar > > > genshi project in PHP? > > > > > [1]:http://genshi.edgewall.org/ > > > [2]:http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.11 > > > > > -- > > > Lucas Stephanou > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
