On 21.02.2011, at 07:08, Fabien Potencier 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2/20/11 11:05 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>> 
>> On 20.02.2011, at 22:58, Bulat Shakirzyanov wrote:
>> 
>>> Lukas,
>>> 
>>> Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with framework extra bundle.
>>> With that bundle, your controller action could simply return array of 
>>> parameters that get automatically injected into a template resolved from 
>>> action name by convention. This saves you a lot of typing. I find the event 
>>> to be very useful.
>>> 
>> 
>> ah .. i have yet to try out framework extra. reading the docs now:
>> http://bundles.symfony-reloaded.org/frameworkextrabundle/
>> thats same scary use of annotations :)

> Then, are you suggesting that we remove annotation support for Doctrine and 
> Validation?  Because, frankly, I don't see any difference.

sorry if i was unclear. i was suggesting to remove that. especially as its in 
an external bundle. i am sure it will male Symfony2 more useful to a nber of 
people. 

>> still i dont see why it wouldnt be cleaner to still return a response 
>> containing the dynamic parameters in this case and then simply populate the 
>> provided instance?
> 
> Can you give us an example of how it would work as I fail to see what you are 
> proposing.

that instead of just returning an arbitrary structure one would return a 
Response (maybe of a specific type) in which the parameters are stored. 

return new ViewResponse($array);

and that core.view would always be notified to allow centralized managed of the 
view content.

core.response to me is mainly about writing minor details to the Response like 
a header (cookie f.e.) or even just doing some statistical logging. i dont 
think one should mess with the content at that point. 

anyway, it feels very unclean. but if this is intentional to make the 
convention over configuration symfony 1.x users happy i still dont like it, but 
i would at least understand the reason for this inconsistency. 

regards
Lukas

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