On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:58:42AM -0700, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > Really the only unwritten rule that we have in the sympy community is > to be friendly, welcoming and polite.
And you personally decide what that means... > Also, I am honestly really > surprised and sad that anyone would like to negotiate such elementary > principles of human interaction. Again, I'm not against friendly and welcoming communication. But I see that this is just a tool. Target is - constructive and productive conversation. Sometimes your tool works alone well, but usually - not, sorry. > We talked to you Sergey I think in March, giving you examples of some > (in our opinion) bad interaction and offering help to improve it in > the future. We did the same in September I believe. Yes, I think. Both examples listed in my message. Everybody can do own judgments how bad it is. > As you know Sergey, I recently offered > you privately to help respond better in the future, in fact, I > specifically asked you not to leave, but rather try to improve some of > the communication. Only sane way to do this: see rule 3). I don't see what else you can do and I wonder why for 3) you need my permission... > The problem is that most people don't complain. For example, I'm. Despite some questionable sentences from the author of this thread during the conversation in the PR. Imagine, there are better things in the world than fill complaints... > They either put up with it, or they leave. If the person is a new > contributor, they are more likely to leave. And I'm sure you have not only qualitative "feelings", but also statistics... > However, if you decide in the future that you would like to come back, > you are always welcome. I don't think it's possible. I explained why in my previous message. And I'm very sceptical about possible changes in the project policy. > You mentioned Kirill, I have offered him (several years after he left) > to put his name back where it belongs into the author list, but he > didn't accept the offer. My offer to him stands as well. The point was not about his name. You lost him. License is more important than people... > As to "talk is cheap, show me the code", I removed it long time ago > from the wiki. Mar 2014. I can guess why you did this. > I still love it, after all these years, I think it > captures the essence of it --- and I love short sentences like this > that bluntly capture the reality. You know what it means, I know, everyone here knows. No need for additional "talks" about this. Ondrej, thank you for your reply. My message wasn't an invitation for a discussion here, I'm only trying to explain why I did what I did. Let's stop. Harsh, Amit, Colin, Chris, thank you for your words. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/20150122135222.GA15849%40darkstar.order.hcn-strela.ru. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
