On 08/20/2014 04:58 PM, Richard Z. wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:45:30PM +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote:
Hi,

Sorry to raise this issue again but it really does need resolving:

* for ensuring good data; and
* to prevent forest and wood being rendered as the same thing [1]

Currently the descriptions in the green box on the right of the wiki page
(and thus those that get picked up by taginfo and other software) are:

Wood: Woodland with no forestry
Forest: Managed woodland or woodland plantation.

In my eyes this is pretty clear. What am I missing / why does there seem to
be so much confusion?

landuse/landcover/natural need resolving so I would not spend too much
energy on partial improvements of it.

True, but this is the largest single part of what needs to be fixed about it all.

Personally, I think the following scheme would work well:

landcover=forest
        anywhere there's trees on the ground
landuse=managed_forest
        where logging activity occurs or the forest is otherwise closely
        tended by humans
natural=wild_forest
        forests without much human activity, either because they're
        protected or because they're far away from humans

The landuse and natural tags would be in addition to landcover. The vast majority of areas would have neither, because they're not cared for by humans but they're still too affected by human interaction.

This does get ambiguous anywhere humans decided "we want trees here, but other than that we don't care", like the Three-North Shelter Forest Program.

landuse could have crop=*, if known.

landuse=forest
        Deprecated. Consumers probably want to treat this like
        landcover=forest. Human editors should change this to a newer
        tag only if they know what is appropriate, with the hint that
        it might be a managed forest, if the original editor was paying
        close attention.
natural=wood
        Deprecated. Consumers probably want to treat this like
        landcover=forest. Human editors should change this to a newer
        tag only if they know what is appropriate, with the hint that
        it might be a wild forest, if the original editor was paying
        close attention.

--Andrew

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