It was François Lacombe on this list 9n Jan 2, 2018. El mié., 3 de enero de 2018 0:14, François Lacombe < [email protected]> escribió:
Hi, Regarding this location=kiosk topic, a discussion was opened on talk page of power=substation key. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Kiosk_substations_in_street_cabinets Since no big issue has been raised, I've updated mentionned wiki pages (with French version when available) with man_made=street_cabinet. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtransformer#Location_values https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet location=kiosk is not a recommended value anymore and it's encouraged to replace it manually and carefully with man_made=street_cabinet + street_cabinet=power location key can now be used everytime to give the right substation/transformer's location, in cabinet or not. We can have underground or indoor cabinets like this : man_made=street_cabinet street_cabinet=power power=substation substation=minor_distribution location=underground or indoor or ... All the best François 2017-11-04 11:45 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe <[email protected]>: Hi The man_made=street_cabinet key sounds suitable to map items described with power=substation + location=kiosk. They are actual small cabinets like those where no technician can enter to work (opposite of building) : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:10kV_trafo_kiosk.jpg Street cabinet is the container while substation is the function. Wiki example on this page gives follwing tags: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Examples power=substation substation=minor_distribution location=kiosk I propose to update it as such : man_made=street_cabinet street_cabinet=power power=substation substation=minor_distribution location=pavement (or wherever the cabinet is located) It works both for nodes or areas. Additionnal advantage is to get location=* back to give cabinet position instead of substation design (there was issues to tag underground kiosks for instance) There are 7k objects in db: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/location=kiosk Pages to update are : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtransformer#Location_values https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet How do you feel about it ? There are no need of a time consuming formal proposal to deal with this question. Without further coments, i will update wiki pages in 15 days. No automated edits. Thanks for your time François _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging El mié., 25 de abril de 2018 21:32, Michael Reichert <[email protected]> escribió: > Hi, > > while adding a substation to OSM yesterday I looked up the possible > values of location=* and missed kiosk. A short glance in the history > showes that it removed location=kiosk from the page on 2018-01-02. The > edit description mentions man_made=street_cabinet+street_cabinet=power > as a replacement. > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:power%3Dsubstation&oldid=1542685 > > location=kiosk was introduced by the approved Substation Refinement > Proposal in 2013. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Substation_refinement#Substation > > man_made=street_cabinet was introduced by the Street Cabinet Proposal in > 2014. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_cabinet > This proposal does not mention substations or transformers at all. > > I think that small substations are not street cabinets because they are > much larger than street cabinets and are usually not located on the > sidewalk but next to it on a separate area. > > I don't remember a discussion of this change, do you? If no, I propose > to revert this change on the wiki. > > Best regards > > Michael > > > -- > Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt GPG-verschlüsselt. (Mailinglisten > ausgenommen) > I prefer GPG encryption of emails. (does not apply on mailing lists) > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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