To me, as a native British-English speaker, "kiosk" doesn't seem to be the right word for these. A kiosk is normally something that *is* large enough for a person to enter (typically, someone selling something through a hatch).
__John On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:53 PM, José G Moya Y. <[email protected]> wrote: > It was François Lacombe on this list 9n Jan 2, 2018. > El mié., 3 de enero de 2018 0:14, François Lacombe < > [email protected]> escribió: > > Hi, > > Regarding this location=kiosk topic, a discussion was opened on talk page > of power=substation key. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Kiosk_ > substations_in_street_cabinets > > Since no big issue has been raised, I've updated mentionned wiki pages > (with French version when available) with man_made=street_cabinet. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power% > 3Dtransformer#Location_values > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet > > location=kiosk is not a recommended value anymore and it's encouraged to > replace it manually and carefully with man_made=street_cabinet + > street_cabinet=power > > location key can now be used everytime to give the right > substation/transformer's location, in cabinet or not. > We can have underground or indoor cabinets like this : > man_made=street_cabinet > street_cabinet=power > power=substation > substation=minor_distribution > location=underground or indoor or ... > > All the best > > François > > 2017-11-04 11:45 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe <[email protected]>: > > Hi > > The man_made=street_cabinet key sounds suitable to map items described > with power=substation + location=kiosk. > They are actual small cabinets like those where no technician can enter to > work (opposite of building) : https://wiki.openstreetmap. > org/wiki/File:10kV_trafo_kiosk.jpg > > Street cabinet is the container while substation is the function. > > Wiki example on this page gives follwing tags: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Examples > power=substation > substation=minor_distribution > location=kiosk > > I propose to update it as such : > man_made=street_cabinet > street_cabinet=power > power=substation > substation=minor_distribution > location=pavement (or wherever the cabinet is located) > > It works both for nodes or areas. > Additionnal advantage is to get location=* back to give cabinet position > instead of substation design (there was issues to tag underground kiosks > for instance) > There are 7k objects in db: > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/location=kiosk > > Pages to update are : > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power% > 3Dtransformer#Location_values > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet > > How do you feel about it ? > > There are no need of a time consuming formal proposal to deal with this > question. > Without further coments, i will update wiki pages in 15 days. > No automated edits. > > Thanks for your time > > François > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > El mié., 25 de abril de 2018 21:32, Michael Reichert < > [email protected]> escribió: > >> Hi, >> >> while adding a substation to OSM yesterday I looked up the possible >> values of location=* and missed kiosk. A short glance in the history >> showes that it removed location=kiosk from the page on 2018-01-02. The >> edit description mentions man_made=street_cabinet+street_cabinet=power >> as a replacement. >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag: >> power%3Dsubstation&oldid=1542685 >> >> location=kiosk was introduced by the approved Substation Refinement >> Proposal in 2013. >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ >> Substation_refinement#Substation >> >> man_made=street_cabinet was introduced by the Street Cabinet Proposal in >> 2014. >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_cabinet >> This proposal does not mention substations or transformers at all. >> >> I think that small substations are not street cabinets because they are >> much larger than street cabinets and are usually not located on the >> sidewalk but next to it on a separate area. >> >> I don't remember a discussion of this change, do you? If no, I propose >> to revert this change on the wiki. >> >> Best regards >> >> Michael >> >> >> -- >> Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt GPG-verschlüsselt. (Mailinglisten >> ausgenommen) >> I prefer GPG encryption of emails. (does not apply on mailing lists) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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