About the "/École primaire des Quatre Fils/, the proper name would be the 
officialy registered one (/or at least that's how it works in Europe/), and I'm 
ready to bet whatever you want that it is not "/de Quatre Fils/".

About the "/Lac des Quatre-Cantons/" [1 
<https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac_des_Quatre-Cantons>], no, you cannot ask 
"/ou sont les //Quatre-Cantons?" /(/Where are the four Cantons?): /that would 
mean/"Where are the 4 administratvie divisions called Cantons" /as/"a canton"/ 
[2 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_(country_subdivision)>]//is firstly 
and formost an administrtive division (/and not only in Switzerland/): the lake 
itself has sevral names, depending on the language, and "/Lac des 
Quatre-Cantons/" is the proper name in French.

Trying to make the whole world reality simpler than it is and constrain it into 
a schema sometimes (/very often, probably/) doesn't work...

Cheers,

Sergio

[1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac_des_Quatre-Cantons
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_(country_subdivision)

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On 2018-12-05 20:31, Eugene Podshivalov wrote:
> OSMDoudou,
>
>     Do you mean "École primaire des Quatre Fils" doesn't have a proper name ?
>     What would be a better name ?
>
> I would say that the category is "École primaire" and the proper name is "des 
> Quatre Fils" but the the commonly used phrase is all together.
> The question was about some general approach for seaching objects of a 
> particular category? How do you find all french ecoles? By name tag? How do 
> you find other objects which do not have category name in the name tag then?
>
> ср, 5 дек. 2018 г. в 21:58, OSMDoudou 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>
>     > Let's take at look at this spot in the centre of Paris
>     > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.86138/2.36028
>     > You can see category names displayed everywhere there, e.g. musium, 
> hotel, school (in French).
>     > As a result when you query OSM database for some category items you 
> have to apply algorithms for clearing
>     > category names from the name field to get just proper names
>
>     Not sure I understand.
>
>     Do you mean "École primaire des Quatre Fils" doesn't have a proper name ?
>
>     What would be a better name ?
>
>
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