Hmmm. Having recently shepherded a proposal, and one which in the end was radically different from my original version due to valuable input from the OSM community, I say tell him to make a proposal and live with the results of voting or face wholesale reversion of his edits.
My two manats’ worth. Cheers, Allan Mustard apm-wa Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > the DWG has received a complaint about user ti-lo/Rtfm's introduction of > motorcycle tags. > > Until 03 April, the shop=motorcycle wiki page contained this: > >> The following is a proposal to put this service variety into tags: >> >> sale=yes/brand/used/no/... - sells whole motorcycles >> rental=yes/brand/no/... - motorcycle rental >> repair=yes/brand/oldtimer/no/... - repairs / maintains motorcycles >> safety_inspection=yes/no - inspection of safety/emission regulation >> conformance >> parts=yes/brand/oldtimer/no/... - sells motorcycle parts >> clothes=yes/brand/no/... - sells motorcycle clothes / equipment >> scooters=yes/no/only - to distinguish scooter shops, very useful in Asia >> services=... - other services this shop offers > > Rtfm (which is ti-lo's account on the wiki) then removed any mention of > these tags and the word "proposal", instead added a table > >> Optional (compare with "Additional keys" in shop=bicycle) >> key values description taginfo >> motorcycle:sales yes/no/used sells motorbikes / used=only second hand >> / yes;used=both new and used >> motorcycle:rental yes/no/trailer motorbike rental / motorbike trailer >> rental (Both: yes;trailer) >> motorcycle:repair yes/no motorbike repair >> motorcycle:parts yes/no sells parts >> motorcycle:tyres yes/no sells tyres (may also be used in combination >> with shop=tyres) >> motorcycle:clothes yes/no sells clothes >> motorcycle:type > > Rtfm proceeded to execute an undiscussed mass edit on the OSM database > which was reverted here: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47664678 > > However: > > * The wiki page has never been changed back > * Rtfm/ti-lo has continued to edit motorcycle shops around the world, > and whenever he touched one e.g. to change the spelling from "Harley > Davidson" to "Harley-Davidson", at the same time also replaced *all* the > old-style tags with his new-style tags again. > * ti-lo hismelf seems to be by far the most prolific user of these tags. > > What we have here is not really a classical mechanical edit, but a > one-man crusade to push through their tagging scheme. > > I'm not sure how to best deal with this. Normally we don't want to > over-emphasize the proposal and tag voting process and we often say "you > can just use a tag and it'll eventually be used by others too". But that > doesn't really apply to changing established tags. Even if it is for the > better - the complaint we have is really not so much about the new > tagging scheme but about the way in which it was established. > > Opinions? > > Should we revert the wiki page to the old version and revert all the > motorcycle:* tags that ti-lo changed from old-style to motorcycle:*? > > Or ask him to run a proper proposal process until $DEADLINE under threat > of doing the above? > > Or just shrug and let him have his way? > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
