To be clear, it is not my proposal and I cannot even ride a motorcycle. The mapper making the wholesale changes, ti-lo/Rtfm, should submit a proposal, period, since it appears the issue involves wholesale change of existing tags, not introduction of new tags.
It may not be a "requirement" but it is the polite or communally proper thing to do. If I did it, he can do it. cheers, apm On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:01 PM Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have been contacted at least twice by user:ti-lo about changing the > tagging of several motorcycle shops I've added over the years. He is a bit > of an evangelist for the new scheme yet has always been polite while asking > to change my tags. Recently, I checked to see if the tags were documented > in the Wiki and learned that the "new tagging" scheme aligned with his > recommendations. I like the scheme and have always said, sure, go ahead > never thinking that the Wiki had been modified by him (as user:Rtfm) to > push the scheme he favors. > > I don't think it's good policy to discourage mappers from coming up with a > new tagging scheme. However, such wholesale changes should be discussed > fully here and perhaps elsewhere but, as someone else pointed out, trying > to get anything approved by the tagging list is a long struggle that often > ends in stalemate. I have often been frustrated by the endless > deliberations that occur on this list when even a relatively small change > in tagging has been suggested. > > Consequently, my opinion about what to do is mixed. Certainly, a full > discussion is warranted before going ahead. > > Best, > Dave > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:48 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 06/01/19 06:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> > >> > sent from a phone >> > >> >> On 5. Jan 2019, at 08:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Not mandatory in OSM ... "Any tags you like". >> > >> > you can use any tags you like in your mapping, but that doesn’t imply >> “changing” tags. It is one thing adding motorcycle:* tags, and another >> removing “old style” tags. >> > Or changing the value of a “standard key” from something well known to >> something “new” (not established) (provided the well known value applies >> according to common understanding). >> >> Thanks for reading the words and not adding to there meaning :) >> >> I too do not encourage changing current tags to some other tag. Only with >> depreciated tags would I encourage there replacement with more current tag >> use. >> >> > >> > And it doesn’t imply changing the tagging recommendations in the wiki >> unilaterally. You can do this on your user page, but not in the common >> space. >> > >> > I agree with Allan’s proposition and ask him to set up a proposal. >> >> Rather than 'set up a proposal' I would ask the contributor (and that is >> not Allen) to discuss the matter here. >> >> Possible problems are that the contributor does not have good English >> skills and maybe reactant to enter into that problem area combined with the >> problem of tagging. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > > -- > Dave Swarthout > Homer, Alaska > Chiang Mai, Thailand > Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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