I would like a 'discussion' with the user on the tagging list.
The tagging "sale" will generate 'discussion' with me ... I think that should
be 'sells'. I have voiced that before on this list, my view has not changed.
On 05/01/19 09:12, Allan Mustard wrote:
Hmmm. Having recently shepherded a proposal, and one which in the end was
radically different from my original version due to valuable input from the OSM
community, I say tell him to make a proposal and live with the results of
voting or face wholesale reversion of his edits.
My two manats’ worth.
Cheers,
Allan Mustard
apm-wa
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:
Hi,
the DWG has received a complaint about user ti-lo/Rtfm's introduction of
motorcycle tags.
Until 03 April, the shop=motorcycle wiki page contained this:
The following is a proposal to put this service variety into tags:
sale=yes/brand/used/no/... - sells whole motorcycles
rental=yes/brand/no/... - motorcycle rental
repair=yes/brand/oldtimer/no/... - repairs / maintains motorcycles
safety_inspection=yes/no - inspection of safety/emission regulation
conformance
parts=yes/brand/oldtimer/no/... - sells motorcycle parts
clothes=yes/brand/no/... - sells motorcycle clothes / equipment
scooters=yes/no/only - to distinguish scooter shops, very useful in Asia
services=... - other services this shop offers
Rtfm (which is ti-lo's account on the wiki) then removed any mention of
these tags and the word "proposal", instead added a table
Optional (compare with "Additional keys" in shop=bicycle)
key values description taginfo
motorcycle:sales yes/no/used sells motorbikes / used=only second hand /
yes;used=both new and used
motorcycle:rental yes/no/trailer motorbike rental / motorbike trailer
rental (Both: yes;trailer)
motorcycle:repair yes/no motorbike repair
motorcycle:parts yes/no sells parts
motorcycle:tyres yes/no sells tyres (may also be used in combination with
shop=tyres)
motorcycle:clothes yes/no sells clothes
motorcycle:type
Rtfm proceeded to execute an undiscussed mass edit on the OSM database
which was reverted here:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47664678
However:
* The wiki page has never been changed back
* Rtfm/ti-lo has continued to edit motorcycle shops around the world,
and whenever he touched one e.g. to change the spelling from "Harley
Davidson" to "Harley-Davidson", at the same time also replaced *all* the
old-style tags with his new-style tags again.
* ti-lo hismelf seems to be by far the most prolific user of these tags.
What we have here is not really a classical mechanical edit, but a
one-man crusade to push through their tagging scheme.
I'm not sure how to best deal with this. Normally we don't want to
over-emphasize the proposal and tag voting process and we often say "you
can just use a tag and it'll eventually be used by others too". But that
doesn't really apply to changing established tags. Even if it is for the
better - the complaint we have is really not so much about the new
tagging scheme but about the way in which it was established.
Opinions?
Should we revert the wiki page to the old version and revert all the
motorcycle:* tags that ti-lo changed from old-style to motorcycle:*?
Or ask him to run a proper proposal process until $DEADLINE under threat
of doing the above?
Or just shrug and let him have his way?
Bye
Frederik
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