This is an interesting topic, and people obviously have strong opinions about successes and failures at using this technology within their work environments.
My viewpoint is that JSTL provides a nice set of features that most page designers with some programming experience will be able to use, especially if they spend the time to learn about the web application environment (request/response, scope, etc.) and get a good reference like Manning's "JSTL in Action". Many work environments need web applications for simple tasks of presenting dynamic data, and JSTL is perfect for that. As the designers become more familiar with the technology, they can move on to more sophisticated projects that use frameworks such as Struts. I think part of the problem with this discussion is the notion that team members fit nicely in roles such as developer, page designer, and graphics artist. Jeez, the original poster even differentiated himself (the 'developer') from programmers and that distinction baffles me. I would guess that few shops have staff that fit so nicely into these roles, but instead there is a blending of disciplines and each staff member has one or more specialties. I have programming experience in other languages and web design experience, but I don't have the entire Java API under my belt (yet). For people like me that constantly deal with the view aspect of a project but also have some programming experience, JSTL offers a nice standards-based middle-ground where I can contribute. Conversely, if I was a pure graphics artist without programming experience, then I would have no interest in learning JSTL, even if it does look like HTML, and you'd be a fool to think that voila!, I could instantly understand the techniques for using JSTL to accomplish some tasks. In the end, I would try to use the right tool to solve a problem, and my choice would affected by the environment and experience of staff. I'm sure there are many cases where JSTL is a perfect choice and many others where attempting to use JSTL is unacceptable. Regards, Garrel Renick -----Original Message----- From: Felipe Schnack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:12 PM To: Tag Libraries Users List Subject: RE: Non Java Developers, programmers using JSTL and taglibs But your designers can handle EL when they need to? And I never say any problems with WYSIWYG tools like Dreamweaver... and design teams I worked with used it... maybe we do simpler things, but it worked... On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 17:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
