Here is an example off the top of my head. It will be grossly over generalized, but it is still useful. Asssuming you have three individuals with specialized duties:
1. page designer - ie the graphics guy who makes things look great 2. html coder - knows every nook and cranny of browsers, what renders, what breaks and how to get around it. doesn't care to know Java or other OOP languages 3. developer In past jobs, good designers will know some HTML. The best page designers know HTML pretty well. Pure graphic designer tend to do a terrible job and their designs don't translate well. The likelihood of finding an awesome designer that doesn't know a lick of html, but can create great webpages is unlikely. The html coders I've worked with like tag syntax and are fine with javascript, so jstl is fine for them. Some of the best HTML coders are decent graphic designers. Unfortunately not all companies can afford to have these specialized individuals, so if you're in that situation, buy the person a book and spend a couple hours a week during lunch to cross train. JSTL and tags in general are designed to solve a human problem, but it's half the picture. You still have to work hard to make development work smoothly. Shawn Bayern's book JSTL in action is a good book, so new designers should consider getting the book. When ever I have to work with people who don't know HTML or javascripting, I create a blank template with just the title and a marker for where logic goes. Like "<!-- list results here, don't touch-->" and walk through it with the designer. That allows the page designer to work around that, which allows you to keep working and plugin your piece later on. Some markup logic can be encapsulated in a very specific tag, which a page designer can use without worrying about correct usage. if all else fails, dreamweaver does provide support for jsp tags http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/productinfo/features/mx/07jsp_development.html peter --- Vinay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a very interesting discussion , at this > point I would like to join > this discussion and express my concerns and > opinions. > I am basically a Java programmer, using struts for > our software > development. Even though I am right now doing both > design work using JSTL-EL > and development I can't really make the web pages > beautiful. I don't use any > IDE or any tools though for any of the stuff. > > So we may have a designer soon and the concern is > that most designers I > think will not have knowledge of JSTL .I don't know > how difficult it is to > make the designer knowledgeable about JSTL tags > ,Java Objects or Java beans > and even if we may allow the designer to do the web > page design using some > tool like dreamweaver , still there be lot of > burden upon the programmer > to embed the JSTL-EL tags into the JSP pages. It > also requires the developer > to use a tool such as Dreamweaver to edit the web > designer's code,which may > cause some discrepancies in the design(this might > not be true,just my > guess). But I still think that JSTL-EL is the way to > go as it really helps > define a view logic (user interface)without any > scriplets. > > Vinay > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
