Looks like the routes that show up on oepnv-karte in Germany are the services (aka lines, eg S-bahn and RE). Which is more likely to be useful than the Strategic Route codes (let alone SRSs), surely???
We don't have service codes (well we do actually, but not anything that would mean anything to the wider public), so I'm not sure what we could meaningfully record other than the operator codes (maybe split in 3 in the case of FGW & NXEA, to represent LDHS, L&SE and Regional). The platform rendering is "interesting" (look at Koeln Hbf), and shows up why you need separate relations for each direction, and separate tracks drawn for each platform if you're going to that level of detail. And it won't work where services (lines) don't use consistent platforms. The S-bahn uses platforms 10/11 (not as shown between 9 and 10). Richard On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Peter Miller <peter.mil...@itoworld.com>wrote: > > --- Cross posted from Talk West Midlands > > On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:39, Brian Prangle wrote: > > Hi everyone > > I've added a railway relation for the West Coast Mainline as it runs > thoruh New Street - so far I've got as far from Rugby Junction to Sandwell & > Dudley station. I've named it as Strategic Route 17 Primary- SRs are what > Network Rail use to label their network. The West Midlands is Route 17. The > problem is ALL the railway tracks in the WM are Route 17 and are > differentiated into primary, secondary, rural and freight - so I'm not too > sure how to proceed in classification afte I've competed the WCML through to > Wolverhampton. I've done this mainly to see the rail routes renderd in the > opnvkarte public transport map. Relation No is 164889 Tagging is as follows > > <tag k="name" v="Railway Route 17 primary"/> > <tag k="operator" v="Network Rail"/> > <tag k="route" v="railway"/> > <tag k="strategic_route" v="Route 17"/> > <tag k="strategic_route_status" v="primary"/> > <tag k="type" v="route"/> > > You can see the full document from Network Rail at : > > http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browsedocuments/StrategicBusinessPlan/RoutePlans/2007/R17 > - West Mids > > > ITO also have someone working on this nationally and he has a useful wiki > on his OSM user page at: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JossSmithson/UK_railways > > > We were about to move this article to the main wiki at a new URL and ask > for community help completing it so thanks for making a > start! When it is more populated I suggest that we replace the current UK > railway article with it. > > In order to stop the relations getting too big for the very long rail > routes should the ways be first aggregated into SRS sections and then these > relations be grouped into a relation for the whole route? Fyi, there are > articles on Wikipedia with SRS details for some, but not all routes. To be > super safe about copyright of sources in OSM I suggest that we first add the > SRS details into Wikipedia (referenced back to Network Rail) and then build > the OSM data from Wikipedia. > > The rail route tables in Wikipedia is here. Red links need to be created! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Rail#Route_plans > > > Regards, > > > Peter > > > Anyone else want to help? I think the first task is to agree probably via > talktransit on how we should tag the relations for Route 17and maybe use > that as a template. I've not added ref=17 yet but that's trivial to > implement, if we agree that's how we want to go. For instance Route 17 > covers the physical infrastructure but how do we ( do we want to?) add > relations for the passenger operators ( e.g Virgin and London Midland (and > the new operator from Shrewsbury) as they run services over the same tracks > just like bus operators on roads. Can the folks at opnvkarte ( who have the > luxury of just DeutscheBahn running trains in Germany) cope with multiple > operators? > > btw route 17 not rendered yet on opnvkarte > > Also railway platforms are now rendered so here's your chance to survey > them! > > Regards > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >
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