Of course - I sometimes update opening hours for them and OSM, assuming that's the case. And treating OSM as a base on which other information can be layered does seem to be the whole point. While there seems to be a significant overlap between OSM editors and those who enjoy self-propelled excursions.

OTOH if OSM was to try to do something to capture this sort of detail, it should be extensible.  I'm in two minds about whether it would be a good idea as it strays towards guide book territory.


Opening hours are something I think we should capture,  at least if we could ever get an honest answer from the establishment, but perhaps a distraction from this discussion


On 16/09/2024 07:59, Jez Nicholson wrote:

Are you also considering not doing it at all, and leaving it to the niche website to maintain edge case data?


On Mon, 16 Sep 2024, 07:48 Chris Hodges, <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thinking more broadly it seems like a "welcomes" tag would be
    useful, with values like walkers, dogs, cyclists, and horse-riders
    (I can think of a couple of Cotswolds pubs with hitching posts).

    Going further I wonder if we could allow hours for those same
    users - I'm thinking of places that have 24 hour drive-through
    (and advertise 24 hour opening) but won't serve anyone without 4
    wheels and an engine after a certain time. Though perhaps that's a
    separate issue ąs walk-in customers aren't the same as walkers.

    Chris

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    On 15 Sep 2024, at 22:17, Paul Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

        Hi Jon,

        > Similarly, is there one for places that welcome walkers?

        I don't know of any (consensus on) tagging with respect to
        places that are friendly to walkers but there's a campaign
        site, Walkers Are Welcome (https://walkersarewelcome.org.uk),
        that looks like a good resource for checking places that might
        have been tagged in a meaningful way. Their
        accreditation seems to apply to a whole village or town. I
        don't think it would be safe to use that fact to armchair map,
        however, but you could scout for locations that have signage
        or a window sticker while doing a ground survey in a place
        mentioned on their website. I know of a café that's part of
        this scheme and boasts a "10% Rambler's discount" for a full
        English breakfast. No idea how to tag that though.

        Regards,
        /Paul/

        On Sun, 15 Sept 2024 at 13:57, Jon Pennycook
        <[email protected]> wrote:



            Hello.

            Near me, a new mapper has created a cafe (both a node and
            a non-existent building) next to a pub. I think this is
            because the pub is friendly to cyclists (has a "cyclist
            pit stop" sign and sells food and drink popular with
            cyclists). There are other nearby pubs that have signs
            welcoming cyclists in particular. Since not all pubs and
            cafes appreciates cyclists, is there a tag to indicate
            cyclist friendliness? Similarly, is there one for places
            that welcome walkers? I tried searching the wiki but
            didn't find anything.

            Jon
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