Hi all, I am sure you all know of this already but, if anyone wants to double check and make sure no new layers have been added that might help your mapping:
If anyone knows how to add WMTS imagery to JOSM, you can explore this list of available layers: https://api.lantmateriet.se/open/topowebb-ccby/v1/wmts/token/9b342b7d9f12d4ddb92277be9869d860/?request=getcapabilities&service=wmts Cheers, blake On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net> wrote: > Hi Blake, > as I mentioned yesterday, I am more or less off-grid now, with no access to > any computer, and limited access to my phone. :-/ > > I hope someone else has the possibility to request data from Lantmäteriet. > > /Mattias > > tis 24 juli 2018 kl. 14:51 skrev Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>: >> >> Hi Mattias, >> >> Please do let me know if you get access to the updated imagery. >> >> We would need what is called a "TMS Endpoint" or WMS or WTMS. >> >> There is an excellent WMS end point right now that could use someone >> investigating all the layers that are available, I will find it and >> share it here. >> >> In the mean time: >> >> <BlakeGirardot> HERE IS THE FIRST PROJECT TO SUPPORT THE POLISH >> FIREFIGHTERS >> <BlakeGirardot> >> https://tasks.hotosm.org/contribute?difficulty=ALL&organisation=OSM-SE >> <BlakeGirardot> Please only share that link so if we have more or >> different projects, or priorities change, we do not have to worry >> about people following outdated links. That link will always be good. >> >> please let me know if you have any questions. >> >> >> (sorry copy pasted from #osm.se irc channel :) >> >> Respectfully, >> Blake >> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net> wrote: >> > I got a response from another source, who states that Lantmäteriet for a >> > long time have tried to convince the Swedish government that >> > Lantmäteriet >> > should be able to open up geographical information in cases like this. >> > With >> > little success so far. >> > >> > So while it seems like a relatively low probability that we will >> > actually >> > get anything this time, I believe that we really should request the >> > data. >> > If we are lucky, they might work something out. If not, well then at >> > least >> > we and Lantmäteriet have something to point at for future discussions. >> > >> > /Mattias >> > >> > tis 24 juli 2018 kl. 00:19 skrev Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net>: >> >> >> >> Yes, personally I believe it would be most helpful if we could just get >> >> the Lantmäteriet HQ to give us permission to use their aerial imagery >> >> for >> >> this project. I would suggest that the project defines what data is >> >> desired >> >> (type of data and geographical extents) and try to get permission to >> >> use >> >> this data with a compliant license. The request could probably be >> >> directed >> >> both to Lantmäteriet and to the respective Länsstyrelse in order to get >> >> some >> >> attention. >> >> >> >> If someone from the Swedish OSM community already have had some >> >> previous >> >> success with data from Lantmäteriet, it is probably most efficient to >> >> reuse >> >> these channels. >> >> >> >> I wholeheartedly support the project, but as I mentioned, I will be >> >> more >> >> or less off-grid in the coming weeks and therefore not able to >> >> participate. >> >> >> >> //Mattias >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:01 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi Mattias, >> >>> >> >>> I appreciate this information. My apologies you get this twice, I >> >>> thought I was also sending it to the main talk-se list, so I am >> >>> resending it. >> >>> >> >>> The issue here is that the folks requesting osm mapping is because >> >>> they are used to working with OSM data. >> >>> >> >>> I will pass on the really helpful information about who to contact you >> >>> have provided, but it >> >>> would be up to the firefighters if they could make use of the data and >> >>> they probably have limited time and resources to deal with the >> >>> individual localities or Copernicus at the moment. They might be happy >> >>> with just >> >>> some printed maps from the authorities. >> >>> >> >>> We can not really organize any data imports as part of this process, >> >>> that would be up to you and your local community to organize. >> >>> >> >>> Basically, we can map like we always do (we meaning us OSM mappers) >> >>> and know that the some folks will use it, there might be better data >> >>> available, but that is the nature of non open data, it is hard to >> >>> locate and get permissions to use. If it is in OSM many folks already >> >>> know where it is and how to use it. This is why OSM data is often >> >>> turned to first during a crisis, even in well developed countries like >> >>> Sweden and Poland. >> >>> >> >>> Our mapping (we OSM mappers) do not in anyway hinder the local >> >>> authorities mapping or them sharing their data so I would generally >> >>> not coordinate with them unless they contacted us and asked us for >> >>> data in which case we would of course organize mapping to support >> >>> them, but it sounds like they do not need our help at all. We (HOT) >> >>> for sure do not want to bother anyone during a crisis like this. We >> >>> let them >> >>> do what they do best, generate excellent, up to date, but closed >> >>> sourced data. >> >>> >> >>> So if folks are still interested in I will create a project for >> >>> mapping in the areas Christoffer identified. >> >>> >> >>> Of course, mapping on your own in osm is perfectly fine, I am really >> >>> glad to hear some of you have started mapping already, that is >> >>> perfect. >> >>> >> >>> Thank you very much everyone for your help with this! Those Polish >> >>> firefighters are already making use of your OSM data, we just want to >> >>> improve it as much as we can for them! >> >>> >> >>> Respectfully, >> >>> blake >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:41 PM, Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > My contact at the national mapping agency (Lantmäteriet) has tried >> >>> > to >> >>> > reach >> >>> > out a bit. Lantmäteriet have deployed a Geocell for assistance with >> >>> > the >> >>> > Wildfires, and they should be quite good at arranging data. >> >>> > >> >>> > My contact's advice is that the OSM/HOT project should get in touch >> >>> > with the >> >>> > county administrative boards (Länsstyrelsen) in the affected >> >>> > counties >> >>> > in >> >>> > order to coordinate the efforts, and possibly to get access to data >> >>> > from >> >>> > Copernicus and other sources. When requesting data, it is of course >> >>> > important to be specific about what kind of data is desired (and any >> >>> > licensing issues). >> >>> > >> >>> > Regards, >> >>> > Mattias >> >>> > >> >>> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hello Blake, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I am trying to reach some contacts at the Swedish national mapping >> >>> >> agency, >> >>> >> who should have a lot of useful data. Unfortunately I will be going >> >>> >> away for >> >>> >> a while without proper access to my computers, so I will not be >> >>> >> able >> >>> >> to do a >> >>> >> lot more than that. If I manage to get hold of some relevant >> >>> >> contacts, >> >>> >> should I direct them to you, or what's the best way forward? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Regards, >> >>> >> Mattias >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Blake Girardot >> >>> >> <bgirar...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Thank you all for your replies. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> The firefighters are from Poland and in Poland they use OSM >> >>> >>> exclusively for their work. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> They do not know where they will be assigned yet so hopefully >> >>> >>> later >> >>> >>> today. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> They said they generally are interested in roads, forestry roads, >> >>> >>> waterways and water bodies (lakes, ponds, etc) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> So that is what they would like you to map. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Any help finding hi resolution, recent imagery (government aerial >> >>> >>> imagery sources are usually best), or feedback on the existing OSM >> >>> >>> layers, which are best, most recent, etc is usually the very first >> >>> >>> step. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> I am guessing they will be assinged to one of the 9 areas on this >> >>> >>> map: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/sites/default/files/thumbnails/EMSR298-AEM-1532344797-r05-v1.jpg >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Whoops, now that I look they updated it in the last hour and now >> >>> >>> it >> >>> >>> is >> >>> >>> 12 areas. But I guess they will be at one of those areas. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> That map also gives you a very high level overview of the region >> >>> >>> affected. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> HOT mapping is just like regular OSM mapping, but we usually >> >>> >>> specify >> >>> >>> what is being requested, in this case, roads, forest roads, water. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> And the the Tasking Manager grids the area so people do not >> >>> >>> conflict >> >>> >>> with each other. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> I would suggest we use a private HOT Tasking Manager Project >> >>> >>> because >> >>> >>> the osm-se Tasking Manager seems to have a configuration problem >> >>> >>> at >> >>> >>> the moment (error on attempted login) >> >>> >>> http://tasks2.openstreetmap.se/ >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> HOT's main priority in a case like this is to not damage the >> >>> >>> existing >> >>> >>> OSM mapping. We often work where there is no data (rural Africa >> >>> >>> for >> >>> >>> example) so we do not have that worry. In Sweden, you have an >> >>> >>> active, >> >>> >>> expert, group of mappers who already have a very good OSM map, we >> >>> >>> need >> >>> >>> to make sure we do not accidentally cause any issues for your >> >>> >>> community. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> More information as I receive it...... >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Respectfully, >> >>> >>> Blake >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Johnny Blästa >> >>> >>> <johnny.bla...@gmail.com> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> > I am a Swedish mapper with experience mapping in the areas >> >>> >>> > surrounding >> >>> >>> > the >> >>> >>> > fires and are willing to help with mapping. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > /Johnny >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > Den mån 23 juli 2018 kl 13:34 skrev Björn Stenberg >> >>> >>> > <bj...@haxx.se>: >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> I am a quite experienced Swedish mapper with some HOT mapping >> >>> >>> >> experience >> >>> >>> >> but I have never organised HOT work. I would definitely help >> >>> >>> >> with >> >>> >>> >> a >> >>> >>> >> HOT >> >>> >>> >> mapping effort. >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> -- >> >>> >>> >> Björn >> >>> >>> >> On 23 July 2018 12:53:16 pm Blake Girardot >> >>> >>> >> <bgirar...@gmail.com> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Greetings, >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> > HOT received a request to improve the mapping around wild >> >>> >>> >> > fires >> >>> >>> >> > to >> >>> >>> >> > support fire fighters in Sweden. >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> > Is there a local, active person, who would like to take >> >>> >>> >> > responsibility >> >>> >>> >> > to organize remote mapping projects to support that request? >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> > Or maybe folks who would contribute if I set up some project >> >>> >>> >> > for >> >>> >>> >> > local >> >>> >>> >> > mappers only to work on? >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> > Please let me know. >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> > Respectfully, >> >>> >>> >> > blake >> >>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> >>> >> > Talk-se mailing list >> >>> >>> >> > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >> >>> >>> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >>> >> Talk-se mailing list >> >>> >>> >> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >> >>> >>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> >>> > Talk-se mailing list >> >>> >>> > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >> >>> >>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> -- >> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >>> Blake Girardot >> >>> >>> OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot >> >>> >>> HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot >> >>> >>> skype: jblakegirardot >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >>> Talk-se mailing list >> >>> >>> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >> >>> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >> >>> Blake Girardot >> >>> OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot >> >>> HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot >> >>> skype: jblakegirardot >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> Blake Girardot >> OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot >> HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot >> skype: jblakegirardot -- ---------------------------------------------------- Blake Girardot OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot skype: jblakegirardot _______________________________________________ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
