Hi Mark, Please may I suggest something... why do not put an online window-eyes report form so the users when they submit their window-eyes problems they do not forget critical information such as their computer basic specifications. Also I wish to add that if the same form will be available as Microsoft word downloaded report form, so the user can fill it offline and then he/she can send it by email attachment.
I think this could save a lot of work and extra efforts from both sides - the users and the developers. Thank you, Michael Micallef -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:55 PM To: manny; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Simon Cavendish Subject: RE: Wineyes and Windows 10 oddities In response to Manny's last post, I believe that having one high quality bug report is much more useful than having tens or hundreds of general reports that lack important details we need to investigate further. So, before posting, please take the time to gather all of the relevant details (i.e. OS version, Window-Eyes version, exact steps to duplicate, etc.) and include them in your report. Also, I want to reiterate that this list is not an official support channel but instead serves as a forum for discussion. If you have an issue that is technical in nature and can't find the help you need on the list, please contact our support team. Thanks, Marc -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of manny via Talk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:38 AM To: Simon Cavendish <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Wineyes and Windows 10 oddities Hi Brandon, Thanks for your detailed post. I am using Windows 7 and I have encountered all of WE9.3 problems that you outlined. I am writing this email in notepad because trying to move around in Thunderbird would only give me a bing sound. When closing programs like Firefox and Chrome, WE9.3 crashes and generates an error report, which I fill out with as much detail as possible. One day in about 2 hours, I sent 4 error reports. I strongly suggested everyone encountering these problems to post so that the magnitude of these problems will be revealed. Many thanks, Manny Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.3, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) quad core drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that Driver Booster is a great program. Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag On 1/29/2016 4:50 AM, Simon Cavendish via Talk wrote: > Yes, I’ve been experiencing having to relaunch Window-eyes again and again > because it suddenly goes quiet on me and I don’t know what’s going on. I > don’t think window-eyes is ready for windows 10. > > Simon >> On 29 Jan 2016, at 11:39, Brandon Miller via Talk >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm using Windows 10 home, version 1511, OS build 10586.71. I'm also using >> Window-eyes 9.3.1. I am currently doing my best to contend with annoyances >> such as: >> 1. When I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes frequently says nothing at >> all. If I want to confirm that anything has taken place at all, I often >> have to press the Wineyes read title bar command, Ctrl+shift+T. >> 2. I'm a Microsoft certified systems engineer, so I frequently go in and >> delete a whole batch of files from places like the temp, %temp%, and >> prefetch folders to not only free up disk space, but to also maintain high >> overall system stability and responsiveness. Often times in Windows 10 >> however, just as above I am almost always greeted by nothing except total >> silence from Wineyes about halfway through this seemingly simple operation. >> Because of my educational background, and the level of familiarity that I >> have regarding internal/background Windows processes, services and >> structures, I've been able to deduce that as a blind person using >> Window-eyes, you've usually got to alt+tab around to find the screen where >> you have to use the Wineyes mouse reading commands to click on the >> "Continue with automatic administrator rights" button, and in the same >> screen I also have to use the Wineyes mouse reading keys since I tend to >> put a check in the checkbox that says, "Do this for all items". >> 3. If you access the start button and select settings, although the >> screens within are mostly accessible, the mouse reading commands can get >> tripped up and are read out by Wineyes in either a nonsensical, or >> undesirable way. To experience for yourself what I'm talking about, do the >> following: >> A. Access the start menu. >> B. Press up arrow until you get to settings. Press enter on settings. >> C. Press right arrow once to move the cursor, and subsequently the focus >> to, the devices category and press enter. >> D. At this point, the category that should be automatically selected for >> you by default will more than likely be printers and scanners. That's fine. >> E. Now press tab four times, and you should arrive at some kind of >> checkbox regarding metered internet connections. >> Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly when tabbing through the >> screen, and I can't get the mouse reading keys to get to that checkbox >> either! I am able to get the Wineyes mouse reading keys to let me access >> the first checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for example says, "Let >> Windows manage my default printer". The second checkbox on this screen >> however, is not reading properly at all. >> 4. Last but not least, Window-eyes is giving me all kinds of problems when >> trying to do something as simple as write an email with Thunderbird! I'll >> be in the middle of composing a simple, old fashioned, plane text email, >> when suddenly and without any kind of warning, Window-eyes'll just start >> announcing my title bar as untitled, and not read anything in either the >> subject, or body fields of the message. I ensure that the window is >> maximized, makes no difference. I press Ctrl+alt+W to relaunch Window-eyes, which sometimes does, and sometimes doesn't make any difference. I've tried uninstalling the TB Enhance app, thinking that it might not have exactly kept pace with Mozilla's Thunderbird development team, but doing so also unfortunately made no discernible difference. I've had to re-launch Window-eyes literally no less than four times while composing this message alone! >> What's up with all these little annoying problems I'm experiencing with >> regard to Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody else contending with >> stuff like this? >> >> P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the Read To Me app isn't working >> in Thunderbird either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee you I've set it up >> correctly, I would know since I've used it successfully before on this PC >> in both Firefox 43, and Internet Explorer 11. Right now though, >> Ctrl+shift+r at the top of the message? Nothing. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle >> of the message? Nada. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of a line in the middle of >> the message? Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives! >> >> Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that this communication is being >> monitored by the National Security Agency or GCHQ. >> I neither condone, or support, any such policy by any Government authority that does not comply appropriately as stipulated by the fourth Amendment of the constitution of the United States of America. >> >> Brandon Dean Miller >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/simon.cavendish%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mauiman01%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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