Also, I read that NVDA screen reader will be coming out with contracted
braille input in grade 2 braille. NVDA's braille support is on par with
JAWS, in my opinion, and NVDA updates very very frequently.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:18 PM
To: 'Vaughan Dodd'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

Absolutely right, Vaughn.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vaughan Dodd [mailto:vdodd...@vodafone.co.nz] 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:13 PM
To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

Yes: but it also meant that no money was going into Window-Eyes 
developments.


The insiders in this industry have a lot to answer for.  They correctly 
commented positively on the opportunity to get a good screen reader into 
the hands of many more blind people, but they were silent on issues of 
ongoing investment into research and development, future releases, and 
the need for new tools to deal with applications which are less 
intuitively accessible.


I don't see how Microsoft would want to continue subsidising 
Window-Eyes.  Windolw-Eyes needs development, and Office wil surely 
undergo changes over time which adversely affect  usability for 
Window-Eyes users.  And Microsoft thinks Narrator will be its answer -  
an insult to the thinking  blind person who relies on screen readers to 
do more than browse the web.




Vaughan.




On 10/15/2016 8:46 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
> Pluss, they won't even make JAWS free for office like Window-eyes did.
This
> office deal was a chance for everybody to brake away from JAWS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 12:39 PM
> To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes
>
> They gonna kill off magic. Trust me. Fs always knew magic was trash. As
soon
> as the shark and zt get reworked to work well together. Magic will be put
to
> it's deserved death, zt fusion and we will be killed  and i'll have to
cough
> up stupid amount of money to upgrade the shark i had in middle school.
Which
> will still cost me arm and leg even with vfo's "generous"
> upgrade pricing. Oh, yeah, kiss ai2's actually helpful tech support
goodbye
> too, y'all.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2016, Samuel Wilkins via Talk <
> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello John,
>>
>> I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, there is
>> speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out.  If it is, I
>> am not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it,
>> amongst other reasons.  However, in my letter, I have pointed out that
>> if Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind
>> people wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work
>> fund.  Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for
>> younger people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as
>> IT technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, and
>> they think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another
>> way.  We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't
>> pay for Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid
>> work, so you would have to buy a license for every computer you use
>> out of your own pocket.  What do you think?  Also, I have heard that
>> they are developing both Magic and ZoomText.  How come they are doing
>> that, but phasing out Window-Eyes?  To me, this is a case of double
> standards.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Samuel Wilkins
>>
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