I'm sure if you really wanted to, you'd've found other ways to get help. If spite is more important, then one really doesn't need assistance.
On 10/17/2016 9:20 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > My opinion only, but I won't be buying jaws or any of their products. I > don't recall what the thing was even called, but was a portable device > put out by freedom that did everything, e-mail, gps and so forth. The v > a bought a friend of mine a new one so he gave me his old unit, about > three thousand dollars worth of stuff. He had let the batteries run > down, so the thing lost all its marbles, meeded reset. I called > freedom's "customer support" and they wouldn't help me at all as I > wasn't the original purchaser. My friend contacted them and they > wouldn't help him either as he hadn't actually purchased the product. > It was bought by the v a and the person who signed the purchase order > wasn't with them any more. After explaining all of this to their > "customer service" department, they still refused to help. I threw the > stuff in the dumpster, three grand worth of stuff totally worthless, > because they wouldn't support their product. Just my little story. > > > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: > >> VFO is basically a creation of Freedom Scientific: with all of its >> shoddy practices built in. >> >> >> >> Vaughan. >> >> >> >> >> On 10/16/2016 3:26 AM, Kenneth Son via Talk wrote: >>> Hello list. >>> >>> I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much good. >>> >>> Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfected that it >>> puts the >>> other screen reader into the useless category. >>> >>> That would make Narrater the main screen reader just as Voiceover is >>> for >>> the Apple products. >>> >>> Probably that's how it should be any way. >>> >>> The possibility of Window Eyes being phased out just makes my heart >>> sick. >>> >>> Having to change over to something else andlearn all those commands and >>> other things just seems a little to much of a chalange at this age. >>> >>> Something is just a little funny about this whole thing. >>> >>> Kenneth Son. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/15/2016 06:46, John Farley via Talk wrote: >>> > Hello list, >>> > > I have now sent a note to VFO via their contact us facility on >>> their web >>> > site. >>> > > It was interesting to find that in their list of products that >>> they will >>> > take note of Window-Eyes does not exist! >>> > I had to use JAWS and then tell them I was talking about >>> Window-Eyes in > my >>> > comments. >>> > > > > Regards, John >>> > > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >>> > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Talk >>> > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> On >>> > Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk >>> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 11:51 PM >>> > To: darren harris; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> > Subject: Re: is this definite? was RE: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes >>> > > No official word yet. If you want to make sure Window-eyes stays >>> > around, please write to the VFO folks and let them know that you >>> expect >>> > the same type of customer service and great products as you did >>> when ai >>> > squared was around. This will let them know you care about the >>> product >>> > and that you are a loyal user. >>> > > > > > On 10/14/2016 4:17 PM, darren harris via Talk wrote: >>> > > Hi all, >>> > > > > Is this actual policy or are people just panicking? Is >>> wineyes going > > to be >>> > > fazed out? >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: Talk >>> > > >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+darren_g_harris=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>> > > > > On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins via Talk >>> > > Sent: 14 October 2016 20:28 >>> > > To: bj colt via Talk >>> > > Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes >>> > > > > Hello John, >>> > > > > I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, >>> there is >>> > > speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out. If it >>> is, I > > am >>> > > not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it, >>> amongst >>> > > other reasons. However, in my letter, I have pointed out that if >>> > > Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind >>> people >>> > > wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work >>> fund. >>> > > Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for younger >>> > > people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as IT >>> > > technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, >>> and they >>> > > think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another >>> way. >>> > > We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't >>> pay for >>> > > Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid work, >>> so > > you >>> > > would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of >>> your own >>> > > pocket. What do you think? Also, I have heard that they are > >>> > developing >>> > > both Magic and ZoomText. How come they are doing that, but >>> phasing > > out >>> > > Window-Eyes? To me, this is a case of double standards. >>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the > author >>> > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> > > For membership options, visit >>> > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 >>> > > btinternet.com. >>> > For subscription options, visit >>> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> > List archives can be found at >>> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> > > For membership options, visit > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/hamradio3960%40aol.com. >>> >>> > For subscription options, visit > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> > List archives can be found at > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz. >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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