I'm sure if you really wanted to, you'd've found other ways to get
help. If spite is more important, then one really doesn't need
assistance.
On 10/17/2016 9:20 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
> My opinion only, but I won't be buying jaws or any of their
products. I
> don't recall what the thing was even called, but was a portable device
> put out by freedom that did everything, e-mail, gps and so forth.
The v
> a bought a friend of mine a new one so he gave me his old unit, about
> three thousand dollars worth of stuff. He had let the batteries run
> down, so the thing lost all its marbles, meeded reset. I called
> freedom's "customer support" and they wouldn't help me at all as I
> wasn't the original purchaser. My friend contacted them and they
> wouldn't help him either as he hadn't actually purchased the product.
> It was bought by the v a and the person who signed the purchase order
> wasn't with them any more. After explaining all of this to their
> "customer service" department, they still refused to help. I threw the
> stuff in the dumpster, three grand worth of stuff totally worthless,
> because they wouldn't support their product. Just my little story.
>
>
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
>
>> VFO is basically a creation of Freedom Scientific: with all of its
>> shoddy practices built in.
>>
>>
>>
>> Vaughan.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2016 3:26 AM, Kenneth Son via Talk wrote:
>>> Hello list.
>>>
>>> I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much
good.
>>>
>>> Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfected that it
>>> puts the
>>> other screen reader into the useless category.
>>>
>>> That would make Narrater the main screen reader just as
Voiceover is
>>> for
>>> the Apple products.
>>>
>>> Probably that's how it should be any way.
>>>
>>> The possibility of Window Eyes being phased out just makes my heart
>>> sick.
>>>
>>> Having to change over to something else andlearn all those commands
and
>>> other things just seems a little to much of a chalange at this age.
>>>
>>> Something is just a little funny about this whole thing.
>>>
>>> Kenneth Son.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2016 06:46, John Farley via Talk wrote:
>>> > Hello list,
>>> > > I have now sent a note to VFO via their contact us facility on
>>> their web
>>> > site.
>>> > > It was interesting to find that in their list of products that
>>> they will
>>> > take note of Window-Eyes does not exist!
>>> > I had to use JAWS and then tell them I was talking about
>>> Window-Eyes in > my
>>> > comments.
>>> > > > > Regards, John
>>> > > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
>>> > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
>>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Talk
>>> >
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley <javascript:;>=
[email protected] <javascript:;>] >
>>> On
>>> > Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>>> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 11:51 PM
>>> > To: darren harris; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> > Subject: Re: is this definite? was RE: The Phasing Out of
Window-Eyes
>>> > > No official word yet. If you want to make sure Window-eyes
stays
>>> > around, please write to the VFO folks and let them know that you
>>> expect
>>> > the same type of customer service and great products as you did
>>> when ai
>>> > squared was around. This will let them know you care about the
>>> product
>>> > and that you are a loyal user.
>>> > > > > > On 10/14/2016 4:17 PM, darren harris via Talk wrote:
>>> > > Hi all,
>>> > > > > Is this actual policy or are people just panicking? Is
>>> wineyes going > > to be
>>> > > fazed out?
>>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Talk
>>> > >
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+darren_g_harris <javascript:;>=
[email protected] <javascript:;>]
>>> > > > > On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins via Talk
>>> > > Sent: 14 October 2016 20:28
>>> > > To: bj colt via Talk
>>> > > Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes
>>> > > > > Hello John,
>>> > > > > I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know,
>>> there is
>>> > > speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out. If it
>>> is, I > > am
>>> > > not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it,
>>> amongst
>>> > > other reasons. However, in my letter, I have pointed out
that if
>>> > > Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind
>>> people
>>> > > wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work
>>> fund.
>>> > > Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for
younger
>>> > > people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis,
as IT
>>> > > technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source,
>>> and they
>>> > > think it could contain a virus or compromise security in
another
>>> way.
>>> > > We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't
>>> pay for
>>> > > Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid
work,
>>> so > > you
>>> > > would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of
>>> your own
>>> > > pocket. What do you think? Also, I have heard that they are >
>>> > developing
>>> > > both Magic and ZoomText. How come they are doing that, but
>>> phasing > > out
>>> > > Window-Eyes? To me, this is a case of double standards.
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