if things are still the same apple can read a windows formatted drive if you
use fat32 instead of the ntfs? format.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Baracco via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 6:54 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: makeing the switch
i have heard and read this argument before. It may have held some water in
the past, but not today. For one thing, most of us already have a computer,
and have likely already paid for a screen reader, or had one purchased for
them. So that savings that would come from buying the Mac does not apply.
Also, today we have a free screen reader available in NVDA. I replaced a
computer in 2012, and again this year. In both instances I considered a Mac,
but in both instances when I did the math, it came out the same. I would be
spending double to get a Mac with the same specs as a Windows machine that
would be to my liking. Even a Mac Mini with decent specs would run me almost
$1200.
Also, i have read that Apple's development of Voiceover for the Mac has been
lagging over the last few years, and many who switch to the Mac find that
they either have to also maintain a Windows PC for some tasks, or they have
to install Windows on their Mac and either run a dual boot system or run
Windows under a virtual machine. Also, if, like me, you have large amounts
of data stored on external hard drives that have been formatted under
Windows, you will not be able to transfer files to and from those devices
with your Mac, thus again having to maintain another windows machine or
running Windows on your Mac.
So i again purchased a Windows PC.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony C via Talk" <[email protected]>
To: "Evan Reese" <[email protected]>; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: makeing the switch
I just priced an I Mac at $1099. Hell, Jaws will cost you more than that, and
then try and get tech support without being made to feel like you’re an idiot
by their people. Thanks but no thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Reese via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 12:02 PM
To: Charles Adkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: makeing the switch
For me at least, the expense of a new PC plus the expense of having to
switch to JAWS if WE goes under, might very well equal or exceed the expense
of a new Mac.
Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Adkins via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 12:51 PM
To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: makeing the switch
The only thing that keeps me from switching is the expense of a mac and I
am obligated to use Windows at work at the radio station. I must admit
though that I use my desktops less and do most things on my Iphone. Again
its the big expense with Macs that does not make it easier to switch for me.
in fact, I'm using my iPhone to type this message.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 4, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Janet Brandly via Talk
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Tony,
I totally agree and am in a similar situation. My laptop is likely nearing
the end of its lifes'an and I'm seriously considering changing to an Apple
product for those exact reasons. If you decide to blog about your
experiences as you adjust to doing tasks with a different screen-reader, I'd
be interested in following your adventures.
Janet
-----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:04 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: makeing the switch
Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several
years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent demise of Window
Eyes, and Jaws sucking as it always has, I’m going to be making the switch.
I’ve been a loyal WE user since 2004, but it seems that it’s time to teach
an old dog new tricks. lol. I can take my I phone or my I pad mini and have
no problem using programs like Netflix, Slink, and other websites using
Voice Over, that WE and Jaws say hey can’t because the sites aren’t
accessible. I think I’ll keep one of my Windows PC’s with WE on it just so I
can look back and think of all the money I spent just to be left with my
thumb up my nose. When I think of the money I’ve spent maintaining a screen
reader, and now the built in screen reader with the IOS works great with all
those websites that were called by tech support for Jaws and window eyes
“inaccessible”.. I know I may catch some flack for this, but it’s the truth
none the less.I guess VFO thinks they’ve cornered the market on Screen
readers, but I refuse to do business with them, because of who they are and
who they are connected with. I started out with Windows 95 and JFW back in
1995, and I used Jaws up untill 2004 when a friend of mine and myself
started building a web site, he was a WE user and I a Jaws user. I couldn’t
do some of the thing with jaws and Freedom Scientific’s tech support told me
it was because the page builder I was usin was “inaccessible”, but my buddy
with Window eyes could do it. I started using WE to work on the website and
as I got used to it I began using is more and more for other things. I found
that WE worked “out of the box” with more programs than Jaws did. So, in
2004 I became a Window eyes user. now I’m sad to say that the same type of
thing has happened, except this time is between Window eyes Windows and
Voice Over and Mac. I will be buying my first Mac in a couple of months and
telling WE and Windows goodby.
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