Hi Tom, Since you had intended your post for the list, I'm forwarding my reply, which just went to you, to the list too. (smile)
All the best, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Rod Hutton Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:26 AM To: Tom Kingston <[email protected]> Subject: RE: makeing the switch Hi Tom, I totally agree with your intention to tone down the enthusiasm to make an unwarranted switch. And yet, depending on what they want or need to do, it can be a viable option to switch, or at least use IOS for the majority of their computer work. However, nothing will ever replace the ease of browsing the web with Windows, I think. Take care, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:50 PM To: Rod Hutton <[email protected]> Subject: Re: makeing the switch Yes Rod. But this is very very dependent on what you need to do and what you want in a screen reader. iOS and VoiceOver don't cut it either way for me. It's a convenient little access point for some things. That's all it is to me. But that's me. I'm sure for some it's great. I just don't want eagerness and wishful thinking landing people where I am. I paid the typical ridiculous Apple price and would have been much better off buying a new Windows laptop. But again, that's just me and my needs. Regards, Tom On 4/4/2017 10:53 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Yes, and yet some have migrated to IOS: > > https://www.macstories.net/stories/one-year-of-ipad-pro/2/#content > > Happy trails, > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:45 PM > To: Loy <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: makeing the switch > > Loy, > Yes. Mac OS is a full blown operating system like Windows while iOS is a > slimmed down mobile OS designed to run on the mini computers it's > designed for. > Regards, > Tom > > > On 4/4/2017 5:59 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: >> Is A desk top Mac OS different that on an IPad? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Butch Bussen via Talk >> To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:24 PM >> Subject: Re: makeing the switch >> >> >> I actually bought a used mac mini a couple years ago, maybe 3 or 4. It >> was all just to foreign to me. Not only is the o s different, but >> screen reader commands as well. With no help at all, it was just to >> much for me these days to start from scratch. It isn't at all like >> windows, so you're starting from the ground up. I'm to old, fat, and >> lazy to do that these days. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Janet Brandly via Talk >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Tony, >> > I totally agree and am in a similar situation. My laptop is likely >> nearing >> > the end of its lifes'an and I'm seriously considering changing to an >> Apple >> > product for those exact reasons. If you decide to blog about your >> experiences >> > as you adjust to doing tasks with a different screen-reader, I'd be >> > interested in following your adventures. >> > >> > >> > Janet >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:04 AM >> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> > Subject: makeing the switch >> > >> > Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for >> > several years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent >> demise of >> > Window Eyes, and Jaws sucking as it always has, I’m going to be making >> the >> > switch. I’ve been a loyal WE user since 2004, but it seems that it’s time >> > to teach an old dog new tricks. lol. I can take my I phone or my I pad >> mini >> > and have no problem using programs like Netflix, Slink, and other >> websites >> > using Voice Over, that WE and Jaws say hey can’t because the sites aren’t >> > accessible. I think I’ll keep one of my Windows PC’s with WE on it just >> > so I can look back and think of all the money I spent just to be left >> with my >> > thumb up my nose. When I think of the money I’ve spent maintaining a >> screen >> > reader, and now the built in screen reader with the IOS works great with >> all >> > those websites that were called by tech support for Jaws and window eyes >> > “inaccessible”.. I know I may catch some flack for this, but it’s the >> > truth none the less.I guess VFO thinks they’ve cornered the market on >> > Screen readers, but I refuse to do business with them, because of who >> they >> > are and who they are connected with. I started out with Windows 95 and >> JFW >> > back in 1995, and I used Jaws up untill 2004 when a friend of mine and >> myself >> > started building a web site, he was a WE user and I a Jaws user. I >> couldn’t >> > do some of the thing with jaws and Freedom Scientific’s tech support told >> > me it was because the page builder I was usin was “inaccessible”, but my >> > buddy with Window eyes could do it. I started using WE to work on the >> website >> > and as I got used to it I began using is more and more for other things. >> I >> > found that WE worked “out of the box” with more programs than Jaws did. >> > So, in 2004 I became a Window eyes user. now I’m sad to say that the same >> > type of thing has happened, except this time is between Window eyes >> Windows >> > and Voice Over and Mac. I will be buying my first Mac in a couple of >> months >> > and telling WE and Windows goodby. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> > >> > For membership options, visit >> > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jbrandly%40shaw.ca. >> > For subscription options, visit >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > List archives can be found at >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> > >> > For membership options, visit >> > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. >> > For subscription options, visit >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > List archives can be found at >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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