Hi Tom,

Yes, and yet some have migrated to IOS:

https://www.macstories.net/stories/one-year-of-ipad-pro/2/#content

Happy trails,

Rod

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Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:45 PM
To: Loy <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: makeing the switch

Loy,
Yes. Mac OS is a full blown operating system like Windows while iOS is a 
slimmed down mobile OS designed to run on the mini computers it's 
designed for.
Regards,
Tom


On 4/4/2017 5:59 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
> Is A desk top Mac OS different that on an IPad?
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Butch Bussen via Talk
>   To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: makeing the switch
>
>
>   I actually bought a used mac mini a couple years ago, maybe 3 or 4.  It
>   was all just to foreign to me.  Not only is the o s different, but
>   screen reader commands as well.  With no help at all, it was just to
>   much for me these days to start from scratch.  It isn't at all like
>   windows, so you're starting from the ground up.  I'm to old, fat, and
>   lazy to do that these days.
>   73
>   Butch
>   WA0VJR
>   Node 3148
>   Wallace, ks.
>
>
>   On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, Janet Brandly via Talk
>   wrote:
>
>   > Hi Tony,
>   > I totally agree and am in a similar situation. My laptop is likely nearing
>   > the end of its lifes'an and I'm seriously considering changing to an Apple
>   > product for those exact reasons. If you decide to blog about your 
> experiences
>   > as you adjust to doing tasks with a different screen-reader, I'd be
>   > interested in following your adventures.
>   >
>   >
>   > Janet
>   >
>   > -----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk
>   > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:04 AM
>   > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>   > Subject: makeing the switch
>   >
>   > Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for
>   > several years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent 
> demise of
>   > Window Eyes, and Jaws sucking as it always has, I’m going to be making the
>   > switch. I’ve been a loyal WE user since 2004, but it seems that it’s time
>   > to teach an old dog new tricks. lol. I can take my I phone or my I pad 
> mini
>   > and have no problem using programs like Netflix, Slink, and other websites
>   > using Voice Over, that WE and Jaws say hey can’t because the sites aren’t
>   > accessible. I think I’ll keep one of my Windows PC’s with WE on it just
>   > so I can look back and think of all the money I spent just to be left 
> with my
>   > thumb up my nose. When I think of the money I’ve spent maintaining a 
> screen
>   > reader, and now the built in screen reader with the IOS works great with 
> all
>   > those websites that were called by tech support for Jaws and window eyes
>   > “inaccessible”.. I know I may catch some flack for this, but it’s the
>   > truth none the less.I guess VFO thinks they’ve cornered the market on
>   > Screen readers, but I refuse to do business with them, because of who they
>   > are and who they are connected with. I started out with Windows 95 and JFW
>   > back in 1995, and I used Jaws up untill 2004 when a friend of mine and 
> myself
>   > started building a web site, he was a WE user and I a Jaws user. I 
> couldn’t
>   > do some of the thing with jaws and Freedom Scientific’s tech support told
>   > me it was because the page builder I was usin was “inaccessible”, but my
>   > buddy with Window eyes could do it. I started using WE to work on the 
> website
>   > and as I got used to it I began using is more and more for other things. I
>   > found that WE worked “out of the box” with more programs than Jaws did.
>   > So, in 2004 I became a Window eyes user. now I’m sad to say that the same
>   > type of thing has happened, except this time is between Window eyes 
> Windows
>   > and Voice Over and Mac. I will be buying my first Mac in a couple of 
> months
>   > and telling WE and Windows goodby.
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