Hi Darrel,

Are you saying that even if you don't roll back to a previous snapshot in 
VMWare Workstation, Jaws still de-authorizes itself?

Thanks,

Rod

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Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

And my experiences with using JAWS on a virtual machine, for the love of sanity 
don't do it. It won't stay authorized.

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Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
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Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

You have to reset, but you only get one reset, unless you do it over the phone.


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Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
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Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

My question is:  On how many computers can we install JAWS?  The reason I ask 
is that I use three computers - a virtual machine on a MacBook Pro, my desktop, 
and a new laptop.  Under Window-Eyes, as long as we adhered to their licensing 
requirements, we could have as many installs as we needed.  With the new JAWS, 
that may not be the case.  In that instance, I have issues about migrating.  
Worse, still, if a computer crashes, and we've gone through our allotted 
installs, I will not pay for another brand-new copy.  This kind of "too bad, so 
sad" response has the prospect of generating customer bad will.


Another example of the licensing issue appeared when I was working for the 
state.  I needed to have eight PC's on a network running Window-Eyes.  As long 
as I didn't run them all with WE at the same time, I only needed one copy.  
With an install limitation via JAWS, the state would have had to pay out more 
money, a disincentive for hiring us.  
Just my thoughts.--Matthew Chao




On 5/15/2017 11:47 AM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote:
> You don’t even have to uninstall Window-Eyes.  It will happily co-exist with 
> Jaws.  Just decide which one you want to autostart and bring up the other 
> whenever you want it.  Don’t know how long app central and the other Web 
> services will be around, but, if Window-Eyes does what you want for the 
> present, you will not be compelled to just stop using it.
>
> I, myself, will try to get my funds together to upgrade, but, I do not feel 
> an urgency to start using Jaws right away.
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: Loy via Talk
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:28 AM
> To: Aaron Smith; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
>
> Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we 
> convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE?
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> To: <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM
> Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
>
>
> Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes family.
> We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended in the 
> United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States and 
> Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We are 
> committed to our customers and will honor existing product purchases 
> and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue to provide 
> technical support to end users that have purchased Window-Eyes or a support 
> package.
>
> All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use the 
> software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system 
> and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function 
> adequately for your needs.
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> We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are offering 
> JAWS® for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to providing a 
> smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes product 
> purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as follows.
> . End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will be 
> converted to JAWS 18 at no charge.
> . If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can purchase 
> an upgrade to JAWS 18.
> . If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue to 
> use it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version, if 
> you are interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales team 
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> . Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program 
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> Learn more about the migration options and pricing by visiting 
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> To make this process as easy as possible, we ask you to complete a 
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> Requests for upgrades must be submitted at 
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> Note, the free Window-Eyes Offer for Users of Microsoft Office version 
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