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Hth, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Huff via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:14 AM To: Kurlander Richard (750000) <rkur...@schools.nyc.gov>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation unsubscribe On 5/17/2017 9:04 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: > How am I unreasonable when mlb wasn't working you would be moaning and > groaning calling everyone you could since you have the time to do it since > you don't work. You seem to be knowledgable, so why don't you go to vfo and > ask them if they can use you as a consultant so you can get paid? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf > Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:55 AM > To: 'richard kurlander' <r.kurlan...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion > List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation > > Wow your unreasonable to say the least > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:50 AM > To: john_far...@btinternet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation > > AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and they don't > have the money to even buy software or embossers if they want to braille. gw > micro should have been working with microsoft from the getgo. People can > work from home and work in their underwear to help people, that's why vfo > should have 24 hour tech support. t > 04:25 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote: >> Richard, >> >> Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. >> That has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if >> not from their inception. >> >> However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech > capability. >> Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator functionality, but because it is >> not designed into the operating system from the beginning it does not >> have good enough functionality for anything other than the simplest. >> >> Therefore the various software houses that wrote and sold the solutions >> for the problem came up with speech reading software. >> >> I cannot think of anyone who would provide their effort and brain power >> full time for many years for nothing. >> How would you expect them to feed and clothe themselves and their families? >> >> ~The object of your ire should be Microsoft, not the screen reader >> manufacturers. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, John >> >> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:28 PM >> To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people >> do not need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra >> software and even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind >> people should be given software so they can survive in this tech world. >> I've read many of your e-mails and you get mad like me if mlb messes >> up and you are completely right however you have all the time in the >> world since and I'm not trying to offend you, but once you told me >> that you don't work and if I am wrong now I'm sorry. You shouldn't have >> to go a million steps to be able use a computer if you are blind. >> Sighted people all they do is click and drag all day long. If they use >> any key strokes it is the windows key strokes since they don't need to > know any key strokes. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:44 PM >> To: 'Nick Sarames' <nicksara...@msn.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> I agree either accept the offer or don't. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM >> To: Kurlander Richard (750000); Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >> realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and >> experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys >> (for example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so >> probably any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but >> others need far more than I do. >> >> No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have >> to adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or >> commercial (meaning for the sighted public as well). >> >> On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kurlander Richard (750000) >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM >>> To: 'talk-l...@window-eyes.com' <talk-l...@window-eyes.com> >>> Subject: whole migrating situation >>> >>> As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are >>> using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and >>> Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since >>> vfo bought all these other companies that they should tried to make >>> the screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to >>> have to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen >>> readers you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys, >>> application keys not use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain >>> in the neck to keep switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have >>> had a window-eyes keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is >>> that Microsoft wants everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox > or chrome any more. >>> I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or >>> listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think >>> I have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where >>> are the cheat sheets that >> c >>> an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a >>> geek. All >> screne readers should be made simple not all the intricate stuff that >> you have to do and that is where vfo should try to work with >> Microsoft as well as all screne readers should work with Microsoft to >> help the blind. 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