Nice try, but in Thunderbird, even when writing this reply, it does give no result. That is, Ctrl-Insert-C, tells me:
No Cursor Found. I can write the message, and the speech will echo my typing. If i Backspace, I can hear one character at a time, as they are deleted. But any use of the Arrows, or things like Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End - yields no speech at all. That is even if the cursor actually moves. Have tried the Ctrl-S, for saving the message - like someone suggested. No help there either. Strange why some reports they have no trouble with the newest Thunderbird. Unless it has to do with the fact that I am still running under Win7, and likely will be for yet a while. David On 12/21/2018 1:34 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > Another thing you can try is Control+Insert+C. This makes Window-Eyes > search for the cursor. It will usually say either "uses system cursor" > or "no cursor found." > Regards, > Tom > > > On 12/21/2018 4:19 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Thanks Bob, yeah, similar issues - fortunately my Thunderbird contains >> spell check (I thinkit's Thunderbird which provides the spell check, but >> who knows). What stinks is, if I leave the composing window, I won't >> know where I am in the e-mail. I have to assume the cursor is where I >> left it. >> >> On 12/20/2018 9:38 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: >>> Nick, >>> >>> I am using windows 10, win-eyes 9.5.4., and WLM. The same thing has >>> been >>> happening to me. It didn't used to do this. It started happening all of >>> a sudden for no apparent reason. >>> >>> If I bring up WLM, I can write an email and see what I am writing. >>> after >>> that, while writing the 2nd email, I can't see or hear what I am >>> writing. >>> >>> I have to close WLM and thenn open it. Then I can see what I am >>> writing. >>> But again, only the first email. Then have to close and re-open WLM >>> again. >>> >>> -Bob >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk >>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:44 PM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Cc: Nick Sarames >>> Subject: Re: Mail Client >>> >>> If anyone has a solution to the arrow problem I have, you are >>> welcome to >>> e-mail me privately: >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When I am composing a message, I am unable to read what I have just >>> written. >>> >>> On 12/20/2018 9:01 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: >>>> I'm not sure just how much I've ultimately got to add here, but I must >>>> at least say this. >>>> >>>> >>>> My version of Thunderbird updated on me without either permission or >>>> encouragement. Naturally I did a double-take and hoped and prayed that >>>> my ability to edit would continue, and with my good luck or divine >>>> intervention, it continued to function as it should. >>>> >>>> >>>> One thing that really annoys me is that every time I go to open up the >>>> program, it takes an eternity to load and otherwise settle down. I was >>>> told that I should remove all add ons, but the only one I have is the >>>> spellchecker, and removing that didn't help either, but I wasn't going >>>> to go without that one anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>> I said all that only to say that I haven't encountered the editing >>>> problem at all, up to this point anyway - knock on wood. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/20/2018 6:15 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: >>>>> On this Windows 7 machine I am still using Windows Live Mail 2012. >>>>> I'm >>>>> not sure where you can get it. You would need the SET files and apps >>>>> that GW developed for it. It has its quirks, but works well for me. >>>>> You may want to work with Thunderbird and NVDA, but I have no >>>>> experience with that combination. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD >>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David via Talk >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 3:02 AM >>>>> To: WE English Mailinglist >>>>> Cc: David >>>>> Subject: Mail Client >>>>> >>>>> Listers, >>>>> >>>>> Could need a bit of info here. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As you know, the latest updates to Thunderbird, have broken the >>>>> accessibility when writing new messages, as well as replying to any >>>>> message received. Seeing how they slowly broke down any >>>>> cooperation with >>>>> WE in Firefox, I do take the guess, this is just the beginning of the >>>>> end for our ability to use Thunderbird along with WinEyes. I do >>>>> cling to >>>>> my WinEyes, among other things, due to the fact that it is the only >>>>> screen reader that to a certain extent works with some websites I am >>>>> relying on. Like for instance our local grocery store, where neither >>>>> NVDA or Jaws will let me do my shopping properly. Only good old >>>>> WinEyes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I want to have a backup for my mailing activity, the day when >>>>> Mozilla finally pulls the plug for WinEyes and Thunderbird. What >>>>> alternatives do we have, now adays? I know some of you have mentioned >>>>> Becky. Is that the only one? Outlook, OK, but that demands me running >>>>> Office - and does it work with all versions of office? Should I >>>>> decide >>>>> to go for things like Becky, will there be a steep learning curve? >>>>> And >>>>> will there be any particular settings or twixings to be done in my >>>>> screen reader? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any feedback you might have, I am open ears. If you have some idea >>>>> as to >>>>> the functionality with any of the other screen readers, along with a >>>>> given mail client, I want to know your experiences. Would be great, >>>>> could I find a mail client, which worked with whichever screen >>>>> reader i >>>>> happen to have up running at any time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oh, and two more questions: >>>>> >>>>> Where to get the client you might suggest? And is it for free, Annual >>>>> payment, or Lifetime priced? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks alot, all of you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. >>> >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. >>> >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> . >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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