Hi, Eugene Iline wrote: > Moreover you can never know the truth about the object behind the wall, > I repeat. The only truth on ground is that this is a wall and access is > prohibited.
That's another situation then. If there's just a wall and armed guards then it might not appropriate to tag it as landuse=military (although OSM does not demand that mappers only map what they can prove - if someone sees something that looks like a forest he may put ladnuse=forest even without actually going in there and checking if it is perhaps a park). But I have to say again that you must view this as a three step process: 1. someone maps in country X 2. data is processed and kept by OSM 3. someone uses data and distributes in in country X The authorities in country X can make laws that affect steps 1 and 3, but step 2 is outside of their influence unless X == United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. > Frederik, is it possible in Germany to give away state secret (if you > know that some combination of information is not to be published for the > reason that it is a secret by the law, only in combination) without > being judged? Indeed in Germany you can be punished by up to 5 years in prison if you knowingly endanger national security by making photos or drawings of military installations or distribute such information. If you do not do this knowingly but negligently then you can still get up to 2 years. But the situation in Germany is that the precise location and use of most military installations is already publicly known which makes the law (article 109 of German StGB) rather toothless - how can you endanger national security by reiterating something that can be found on Google? I agree that once OSM reaches a level of detail where hitherto unknown facts about German military installations are mapped (by rogue elements inside the military perhaps), this might become a problem in Germany. As a provider of OSM maps and data based in Germany, I would then have to remove such information from the data I provide in order not to get in trouble with the law; as a mapper in Germany I would have to refrain from mapping such details. But even as the most law-abiding citizen I have no legal obligation to log in to a database kept in another country and remove information about my country's military installations from there, or even try to convince the keepers of that database to remove it. Bye Frederik _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
