On 29/05/2015 12:58, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse <li...@atownsend.org.uk> wrote:
I'd say that whether or not a name is actually usable to help navigate
to a place is a pretty important piece of information.
True. And that what "name" should give you. The "name:CC" tags should
not be a hindrance, at most they should be given alongside "name" by
your satnav.
For example,
when processing OSM data for my own use I'll try and drop unsigned names
and refs from roads (there's no point in saying "turn left on Foo
Street" if "Foo Street" does not appear on the sign).
That's really neat. How do you know wether a street is signposted or
not ? I don't know of any tag that gives that info. I can't imagine a
good heuristic using name:CC. I've added quite a few unsignposted
street names by asking locals.
I've used name:signed=no (though this is by no means an accepted tag,
and if anyone can come up with a more accepted version that does the
same job I'm all ears).
Maybe something like "name:signed=en;cy" might solve the "name
verifiability" problem for Abergavenny?
It's the same
principle here - if there are 300 names for a place, are you really
suggesting that I have to do an external check to some other database to
find that as it's in South Wales, signs are likely to be in Welsh and
English, so it's those language names that I need to look out for?
What's wrong with "name" ? What's the UK policy on the content of
"name" for places with Welsh and English names ? If you want to see
Welsh names as often as possible but still make the local name more
prominent, use "local name (welsh name if different)" in your map
generating script.
The problem here is that there are two* equally valid and correct
"name"s (in on-the-ground verifiable terms) for Abergavenny.
Obviously there are more complicated places too -
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/52241235 and
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/267762522 immediately sprung to mind
(re the former I thought that it was "An Daingean" that appeared on the
official signs these days?).
Cheers,
Andu
* or possibly three if you count Latin. It wouldn't surprise me if that
wasn't on a "Welcome to Abergavenny" sign somewhere.
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