Hi all,
Surely this is a case of “more is better”. As Kate suggests, the hashtags are a
great tool for downstream analytics we can use to learn about and improve our
work.
At mapathons I always instruct newcomers to add their personal comments to the
pre-loaded tags from the tasking manager. If mapathon holders don’t instruct
mappers to add their own comments then I would think that calls for the same
patient back channel communications we give to mappers who tag features wrong
or other well-meaning mistakes.
Robert
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote:
> Hi Frederik,
> I fail to see how machine readable hashtags are "not useful". They allow
> statistical analysis which can be used to inform future recruitment and
> other activities. Often we make assumptions about OSM contributors not
> backed by statistics this allows improvement in one corner of the OSM
> community. Perhaps some human readable text would also be useful, but I
> don't think of adding hashtag like comments as an issue.
> -Kate
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to draw everyone's attention to a long-standing
>> community recommendation:
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments
>>
>> It explains why you should use sensible changeset comments that describe
>> what you (think you) have been doing.
>>
>> I don't know exactly who encourages this, but I am seeing lots of
>> changesets with comments like this:
>>
>> #MissingMaps #hotosm-project-12345 Lubumbashi, Congo (DRC) #100mapathons
>> #OSMGeoWeek
>>
>> This is *not* useful. First of all, we're not Twitter; we don't evaluate
>> these hashtags. I don't know if there are some downstream services that
>> do, but if so, please switch to using a secondary tag (remember,
>> changesets, like other OSM objects, can have any number of tags).
>>
>> As a reader of the edit history of a place, I am interested in someone
>> writing that they have traced buildings or drawn roads or done whatever.
>> I'm not so much interested in (what I perceive as) vanity hashtags, they
>> don't help me understand what the person did.
>>
>> I mean look at this:
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/history#map=6/8.418/43.923
>>
>> It's really a caricature of what changeset comments were meant to be.
>>
>> Can it be fixed somehow, or have we permanently moved from changeset
>> comments being aimed at your fellow human mappers to changeset comments
>> being auto-generated for consumption by some software that makes sense
>> of them?
>>
>> Bye
>> Frederik
>>
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