Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 3:42:45 PM, you wrote: > Hello Indie_Dev,
>> resend since first version from this morning was more than 50KB and >> the moderator hasn't approved it yet. >> >> * ==== original ==== * >> >> Here's the thing. There are several interface inconsistencies which >> are trivial and which IMO as a commercial software developer, >> should be addressed. > This list is TBBeta, to discuss beta versions bugs and issues. You are > using the latest release version (3.99.03) and not the latest beta > (3.99.20). I fail to see the relevance. And I consider myself to be a fairly smart guy. I don't want to have to use a Beta version to outline problems which are in the Beta as well as the general release version. Going by the rules of software development (this is the part where you take note of what I'm saying), if there is a Beta program, thats where you report issues related to _incoming_ and _future_ fixes due to issues and the like. Why? Because reporting them on the - largely ignored website forum - is tantamount to reporting it to - yet another - list which, unlike the Beta program is not geared toward fixing nor addressing issues. Even if it were; where would those fixes and issues be addressed? Thats right. In the upcoming versions which are prepped (as in 'Beta') and tested for future 'release'. So, it - obviously - makes sense to report them to the active development area (as in 'Beta') so that the developers are in fact aware of them. > Aside of that, your comments are generic. I think you should > post them in TBUDL and not here. Well, they may be generic to you, but not to me - someone looking in from the outside. More often than not, when developers are too close to their product, it is hard to see whats wrong (or right, as the case may be) with it. Especially where feedback is concerned. Bug reports are a whole different ballgame since you can only fix what you can reproduce reliably. Suggestions and the pointing out of program consistencies are usually beyond the scope [of thinking] of those close to the project. Which brings me to... Focus groups and outside testing (which is what, believe it or not, this Beta program is all about) of said software in order that 'fresh eyes' be able to see said program from a different light and not just the developer's version of tunnel vision. I have developed several commercial programs and I can guarantee you 100% that the number of people using my products probably eclipse those using The Bat! by, oh a few thousand to one. So, unlike someone just spouting off, I _do_ know what I'm talking about. What you guys do with my suggestions is clearly up to you. I don't care either way and I have nothing invested in it. I just want to help because one's investment in an email program - the most advanced and crucial form of communications of our time - is not to be taken lightly. There is a reason why all phones now come with a speakerphone, when in the past you had to look for a phone that _had_ such a feature. Its called progress based on demand. >> 1) Why is there no 'Delete All' option when you click on the >> attachment tab in the viewer page? If there are several attachments >> and you want to delete them, you have to repeat the 'Delete' action >> numerous times. God help you if some relative decides to send you a >> ton of pictures of their new baby voted most likely to be the next >> anti-Christ. That means in order to delete 24 pictures of the next >> anti-Christ, you have to do a total of (24*3) clicks. That, to me, is >> patently unacceptable. > You only need 3 clicks. One to select the first attachment, a second one > (shift+click) on the last attachment and _all_ (no matter the number) > will then be selected. Then, right click and select delete. Once again, I am _aware_ of the use of [undocumented] hotkeys. Was I talking about hotkeys? No. I was talking about the interface GUI in terms of _usability_. I have a hand holding the mouse. Using that hand, I can do some tasks (delete one) but not the other (delete all) when in fact it makes _no_ sense that I shouldn't. Especially when you consider that they are both related. Plus, your suggestion points to - yet another - inconsistency.... If you can do 'Save All' and 'Save All To', without resorting to hotkeys, why not, oh I dunno, 'Delete All'? > I may make more comments to your issues if you post them in the > appropriate mailing list, TBUDL. No need. I wasn't looking for a debate (or argument) and I have no intentions of joining another list just so I get to repeat myself. -- cheers, Indie_Dev ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
