Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 6:34:35 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Indie_Dev,

>>> This list is TBBeta, to discuss beta versions bugs and issues. You are
>>> using the latest release version (3.99.03) and not the latest beta
>>> (3.99.20).
>>
>> I fail to see the relevance. And I consider myself to be a fairly
>> smart guy.
>>
>> I don't want to have to use a Beta version to outline problems which
>> are in the Beta as well as the general release version.

> Let's see if you are smart enough to understand this:

> ,----- [  ]
> | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> |                                             TBBETA Mission statement
> | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> | The  TBBETA  list  has been set up for the purpose of discussing The
> | Bat!  officially released Beta test versions and related issues. For
> | general  topics  of  a  more  simple  nature  regarding full release
> | versions, refer to TBUDL. For more complex topics refer to TBTECH.
> | 
> | An  'officially  released'  beta  version  is  one  which  has  been
> | announced  *by  RITlabs*  on the TBBETA list, usually with a list of
> | changes.
> `-----

Which, of course IMO, is meaningless and makes _no_ sense. Here's why:

1. The Beta build contains the _same_ problems that plague the release
build.

2. I don't intend to use - a largely buggy Beta (hence the term) - so
that I can get to be 'officially' allowed to post about issues which
plague both the Beta _and_ the release builds.

Your argument is flawed, without merit and not in the spirit of
fostering and requisitioning feedback from those who can actually
speak up (and out) about issues without having to succumb to
fanboyism. I was polite, to the point and quite detailed in my
reporting of issues. Thats because I'm a software developer and
wouldn't expect any less from someone reporting to me (or one of my
devs) about my software. And if you even had _any_ idea who I was or
what software I develop for a living, you would know that apart from
speaking from experience, my software is sold to the most unforgiving,
passionate and abusively abrasive bunch this side of a customer base.

Get this. I'm a paying customer. How you folks choose for me to report
issues is, believe it or not, _not_ up to you. I can send emails, post
on the forum, post on the Beta list, post on the TBUDL list or send a
courier pigeon. It shouldn't matter. What should matter is (a) whether
or not you pay attention or (b) you actually acknowledge the issues
and actually do something about it.

My guess is that (b) is the pre-requisite action given that, like
every software ever written, most of the bugs and shortcomings are not
found by the developers but the users. In case you were wondering,
'users' would be someone like me.

-- 
cheers,
 Indie_Dev


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