Hello Steve,

SL> "optional" items to make it comparable to Bat v1.x?  You are aware that by
SL> virtualizing everything in the manner they have described they are adding in
SL> several layers of complexity?  Each layer has its own potential for bugs.

Then your conclusion will be: do not try to make complex software.
Doesn't work for me.

SL> not directly related to the main task at hand, *reading email*.  They are
SL> doing this without that core application's full potential even being
SL> completely realized.

If you just want to *read mail* you can use Outlook...

SL>     I'd rather you learned how to quote properly first.  This is a killer for
SL> me to read in any intelligible fashion.

A good start for any serious discussion, he?
Steve Lamb, I'd rather you had learned how to choose your words
properly; please do not tell me that "I have to learn how to
quote properly" that way, this is ridiculous.
Are you underlining quotes in your newspaper with blue? I chose to
quote that way, alright? Most of the quotes where so short, that I
rather included them in my discussion, O.K.? Secondly, I wanted to make clear to 
everybody who I quoted.
Sorry if this one time didn't fit your aesthetic feeling or the processing of chunks.

SL> The programmers of RITLABS only have so much time on their hands.  It
SL> is finite.  They do not live in a warp bubble where one day for them equals a
SL> month for us.

Thank you for pointing that out.

SL>   Time they spend coding other projects means they aren't coding
SL> *this* one.

Let me guess: you then make the line in the relation between number of
projects and quality? It doesn't always have to be an exactly negative
linear relation, IMHO. BTW, it was not to be taken so seriously, and I
think this was clear.

SL> "You can have fast service, you can
SL> have quality service and you can have cheap service.  Pick two."

Well, I'll take 'quality' and 'fast service'! Or 'Quality' and 'cheap' would be
ok, too. Maybe RITLABS at least chooses 'quality'.

>> ideology: news and mails are "somewhat the same".
SL>     They are not.

The idea of exchanging news, opinions or help is similar. I read
mails from other people, I read my paper mail, postcards, I answer
email, paper mail, postcards and even news from news.xxx.yyy .

SL>     And that is my problem.  *IF* that is the case then it is another company
SL> that is drooling over the numbers of the "newbie" market and forgetting that

As exclusively for newbie market, you are right, here, but sometimes
newbies or 'outsiders' to speak generally, are able to bring in new
views or ideas that an involved person wouldn't have come up with.

>> What I think when I read George's comment "Newsreading is a VERY
>> VERY different [...]
SL>     He never said the reading was the same, he was talking just the technical
SL> level.

Right! He answered to 'the ideology' with technical aspects, because
there are no visual (or 'ideology') differences!

>> This is A+ software engineering! We're trying to model communication
>> here!!
SL>     A+?  No.  Good, yes.  Great, no.

I don't understand you. I wrote that it is A+ software engineering to
think about the similarity of news and mails regarding the purpose of
exchanging information, with the same properties, and you say 'good'.
Ok, B+, then, but I thought you were opposed to that opinion. BTW, I
never said that I'd like to have an integrated newsreader, but I can
understand why RITLABS is thinking about realizing it and I wouldn't
_hate_ this option.
To further explain my point of view: if some friends of mine want to
discuss this or that topic with equal minded people in the net, they
wouldn't care if by mail or news!

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With best regards,
 Claudius Regn                     mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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