Dane Like I said, it is rich in features, and also in price. Since all you’re doing is effectively agreeing with me, what was your point? I have no issue with the rich feature set and it is true that other competing device manufacturers would do well to look at implementing some of these or releasing their API’s to external developers so that they can produce the apps. I have discussed with Humanware the possibility of them opening up the closed doors a little for a future release of KeySoft.
However, I have to agree with Jackie to a large degree. People such as myself are using laptops and other devices for DropBox and other access protocols. I am in great need of a note taker, a planner,/diary/calendar and a hugely configurable database which I can carry around with me. I now have all of those things, thanks to the Apex, which has improved radically actually since the release of KeySoft 9.3.1. Many more browsing commands have been added, for instance, to KeyWeb. The only really bad side of Apex is its appalling mail client and I have already recruited one member of HumanWare’s staff to my mini-campaign to have them do a rewrite, or let somebody else do it. KeyMail is fine when it comes to editing. But its lack of modern-day protocols is just inexcusable. I speak as somebody with no axe to grind either against HumanWare or the producers of other competing devices. But you know, those of us who need these portable tools for work reasons won’t be too worried about the lack of DropBox access. I am proud actually that I have won myself a position within an educational establishment where I can really make a difference. My job title was given to me by the local authority, (I didn’t pick it), so that I could identify myself as one of their employees as of this week. Anyway, back to the point. KeyBase has to be one of the most powerful and configurable databases which also offer full accessibility, that I have ever seen. In fact, it is more powerful in many ways than either Bento® for Mac, or even FileMaker Pro. You can create custom databases for just about any application. The supplied ones themselves are great example to work from. But as Jackie says, if Braille support for other devices is all you need then it’s a little silly paying out all that money for a notetaker of any kind. Before Access To Work got me my Apex, I was using an old Baum/Humanware/Supervario display. It has no longer USB connectivity because it met with an accident. But it still works via Bluetooth and works well on the PC for which I have it configured. Kind regards <--- Gordon Smith ---> <[email protected]> Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help & Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> Skype: <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> ------------------------------ On 2 Nov 2013, at 09:54, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: Just no pleasing some people <smile>. The price is a little steep however its the only machine of its type I know of to truly offer facilities designed for the deaf-blind which makes a difference, an example of this is the in-built Vibrating alert system, I've been wondering for quite some time why we've not had something like this in the past in PDA'S designed for the blind. On 2 Nov 2013, at 8:34 pm, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Sounds great but the price is just way too high. Given that other > manufacturers are now moving towards decreasing their prices to meet the > demands of this kind of competition, I think they have chosen the wrong time > to release such an expensive model. > > I totally grant that in terms of features, it beats the Freedom Scientific > and HumanWare products hands-down. But the price, well, I guess it may not > mean much to somebody who lives on Millionaire’s Row. But unless you happen > to be able to get it via an agency you’re going to have to save for quite a > while before you can afford one of these devices. > > As I said earlier, even the people at HumanWAre Europe have admitted that > technically the HumanWare Apex current generation simply cannot compete. No > point denying that, it’s fact. But even so, whether or not there is a > take-up of these things remains to be seen. > > Kind regards > > <--- Gordon Smith ---> > > <[email protected]> > > Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; > Providing Help & Support To Young People With Visual Impairment, plus Braille > Transcription services. > > > ======================================= > > The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free > > To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web > pages located at > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at > either of the following websites: > > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html > > Or: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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