I'm not in a position to argue exactly what employers want and don't want and perhaps I didn't explain myself well enough, what I am saying that - as it appears to me - Hims Inc seem to be more disposed to the idea of integration into a sighted world whereas other company's have a different attitude, Hims Inc no that people use services out there such as Dropbox, Googletalk etc for both business and pleasure thus they built accessible Apps into their units to handle both.
This isn't an issue as to what's better than the other, you have distinctly different approaches and ideas so its up to the user to select what is right for the particular situation. now just changing subject slightly, has anyone found an accessible Twitter client for Windows, there are a million for LYNUX and quite a few for Mac but very few it seems for Windows, only one I know of is the messaging client Socializer. On 3 Nov 2013, at 12:53 am, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Dane > > No, I don’t think your last point is valid. In employment, you need note > taking, word processing and databases, things like that. Not DropBox unless > you happen to be a business person on the move. > > I don’t for a second dispute the Hims products are extremely attractive if, > and only if, you happen to have need of their functions. And finally, in > employment circles certainly within the UK, the Apex is god! > > > Kind regards > > <--- Gordon Smith ---> > > <[email protected]> > > Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; > Providing Help & Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus > Braille Transcription services. > > Telephone: > > United Kingdom: Free Phone: > 0800 8620538 > > Mobile: > +44 7907 823971 > > Europe and other non-specified: > +44 1642 688095 > > Or: > +44 1642 941776 > > United States Of America And Canada: > +1 646 9151493 > Or: > +1 209 436 9443 > > Australasia: > +61 38 8205930 > Or: > +61 39 0284505 > > Fax: > +44 1642 365123 > > Follow Us On Twitter: > <http://twitter.com/maciosaccess> > > Skype: > <skype:mac-access-dot-net?call> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > On 2 Nov 2013, at 10:16, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > > As I said, your point is taken. > > I count myself extremely lucky and I don't mind admitting that I just > happened to be in the very right place at the very right time, there was > someone I knew who was going to do away with his Voice Sense, he'd switched > to IOS devices. I asked him would he take some cash rather than throw the > Voice Sense away so that's the story, someone's trash is someone elses > treasure, no doubt about it. > > The Voice Sense is hardly a new product, well mine isn't at any rate given > that its 5 years old however the design and the continual firmware updates > make it a very practical and functional device in today's changing world, how > long this will continue to be the case is anyone's guess, Hims did write to > me at one point telling me that as long as the hardware of the Voice Sense > supported the software then the firmware updates and feature set updates > would keep coming. > > I recently discovered the "Terminal mode" which has made yet another > difference, makes integration between IOS and Mac even more seamless, I like > my Braille keyboard rather than a QWERTY one and that's what I'm using right > now to write this eMail, the Braille keyboard of the Voice Sense. > > Having said all that, I very much liked the Braillenote Apex too! though its > probably unfair of me to even think about that machine given its quite some > time since I saw one. > > Someone may correct me here but it seems to be the approach from Human B Ware > and Hims is different, Hims is more for the integration and employment way of > doing things, hence the standard features of Dropbox, Social Media etc. > > > On 2 Nov 2013, at 9:03 pm, Jackie Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Dane >> >> I really like the Hims products, no doubt about it. But they are way too >> prohibitive for people who aren't working or studying, the main routes to >> acquire such kit. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jackie Brown >> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >> Sent: 02 November 2013 09:54 >> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! >> Subject: Re: Next Generation Braille Notetaker Just Released >> >> Just no pleasing some people <smile>. >> >> The price is a little steep however its the only machine of its type I know >> of to truly offer facilities designed for the deaf-blind which makes a >> difference, an example of this is the in-built Vibrating alert system, I've >> been wondering for quite some time why we've not had something like this in >> the past in PDA'S designed for the blind. >> >> >> On 2 Nov 2013, at 8:34 pm, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sounds great but the price is just way too high. Given that other >> manufacturers are now moving towards decreasing their prices to meet the >> demands of this kind of competition, I think they have chosen the wrong time >> to release such an expensive model. >>> >>> I totally grant that in terms of features, it beats the Freedom Scientific >> and HumanWare products hands-down. But the price, well, I guess it may not >> mean much to somebody who lives on Millionaire's Row. But unless you happen >> to be able to get it via an agency you're going to have to save for quite a >> while before you can afford one of these devices. >>> >>> As I said earlier, even the people at HumanWAre Europe have admitted that >> technically the HumanWare Apex current generation simply cannot compete. No >> point denying that, it's fact. 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