Do what you need to survive. I may have to start doing Service Calls again.
-Ed- Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "LeRoy Westlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical problem) > Hi Mark, and fellow techs. > I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want > anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I don't > want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have to. > A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise > diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size of > the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for > PTVs. > I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for the > FREE estimate. > Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to buy > a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the price > that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is not > any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of > course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. > I will have to convence them of that. > In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to > start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to discourage > them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the > BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain that > there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be > fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this because I am desperate. If I > had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but, > things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day > that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective areas. > You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at > their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,..... > ;-) > > LLW > > LeRoy Westlund > Westlund TV & Electronics > 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Wentowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:57 PM > Subject: RE: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > verticalprblm) > > > >Jeff's a damned good tech Leroy. Nobody ever doubted that. > > > >What's going on in Utah. Fun fun fun > > > >Mark Wentowski > >Perry Hill Electronics > >3836 Harrison Rd. > >Montgomery AL 36109 > >phone: (334)279-5622 > >fax: (334)273-9050 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund > >Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:21 AM > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST > >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > >verticalprblm) > > > > > >Well,....I'll be damned ! > >I wish I hadn't thrown mine away already. > >Jeff,...you are a better tech then me. > >Congradulations. > >;-( > > > >LLW > > > >LeRoy Westlund > >Westlund TV & Electronics > >97 North Main "Where there's a will,... > >Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." > >Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:11 AM > >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was > >verticalprblm) > > > > > >>Don't applaud,..........throw money!!! > >> > >>Doug Keller > >>Wis-Kel Electronics > >>101 Freeland Ave. > >>Terra Alta, WV > >>USA 26764 > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://www.tech-assist.org > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Intrepid Video Support wrote: > >> > >>>Persistence pays off again... > >>>After spending a lot of time in the vertical section, I came to the > >conclusion my final fault was not in > >>>this circuit. It was confusing since removing the vertical connector for > >the yoke, I got a horizontal > >>>line.. > >>>In my checks of IC271, I found my voltage low on pin 18(s/b 5.1v). > Lifting > >the pin and the voltage came > >>>up. > >>>On connector J251, I had 1K ohms resistance pin 5 to ground, unsoldered > >and isolated problem to CRT board > >>>as other techs had suggested. I thought I ruled the CRT board out as > shows > >video on the scope on each IC > >>>and injected video and the screen lit up. > >>>Tracing the path back I found the final two video out IC's(that I did not > >replace in the beginning) > >>>actually had pins 5 shorted to ground, lifted to confirm that pins 4,5 > >were shorted. > >>>Replaced IC's and screen lit up, though decreased vertical...I put the > >original EEPROM back in set and > >>>picture was perfect. > >>>I appreciate everyone that sent schematics and offered their help. I > >couldn't have completed this task > >>>without the help from this list.. > >>>Thank you. > >>> > >>>Jeff Dougherty > >>>Intrepid Video TV/VCR > >>>263 S Front St > >>>Steelton PA 17113 > >>>fax...717-564-4952 > >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Intrepid Video Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:04 PM > >>>Subject: [Techs] 2nd REQ... TA...NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > >vertical prblm) > >>> > >>> > >>>Going with a fresh post on this one. I still can't find the problem. > >>>First thing, I found the resistors and diodes for the 13 (-/+) lines bad, > >replaced those and shorted > >>>vertical IC. > >>>Then, I had raster that was red with retrace, found the RED video IC bad > >on CRT board. Also, R50 > >>>open..replaced, then back to no video. > >>>I've tried three more vertical out IC's all OEM and NTE, still no video. > >With the NTE in, I get some video > >>>very top of screen about 1/4 inch across. > >>>On IC271, 46/47, voltages were about a volt low and wave forms were low > >p-p, replaced IC..no fix. > >>>Wave forms in/out of SAW filter are OK. > >>>On pin 1 over vertical yoke, which comes from pin 5 of vertical wave form > >shows about 50 vpp, very high. > >>>Pin 6,7 of vertical show low pp voltage. > >>>I've went over and over my traces solder, replace the resistors and diode > >with OEM numbers, went over the > >>>CRT board again. > >>>If I remove the vertical plug, I do get a horizontal line and the power > >LED flashes. I checked the yoke > >>>and it is about 1 ohm off from one on another set. > >>>I have the schematic of this section, but am not sure what is causing > >these wave forms to vary. > >>>I put in another Philips IC and the wave forms are even farther off. > >>>Any other ideas before I scrap this set...I've done many of these B8 for > >the same problem and have never > >>>had this type of trouble, > >>>Thank you. > >>> > >>>Jeff Dougherty > >>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > >updates free. > >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > >>>Techs mailing list > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > updates > >free. > >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > >>Techs mailing list > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates > >free. > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > >Techs mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates > free. > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > >Techs mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > Techs mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > _______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com
