Doug Keller Wis-Kel Electronics 101 Freeland Ave. Terra Alta, WV USA 26764 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tech-assist.org "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
Intrepid Video Support wrote:
LeRoy, More power to you. No one has any business telling you how to run your business and it annoys me when other techs tell you NOT to give free estimates, to charge more, etc... Some of us have to use some creative selling techniques to bring in more business. I some times spend 15 minutes encouraging a customer to leave their set. When you have nothing to repair..you appreciate the ones that will leave their set and agree to a reasonable repair bill.
Jeff Dougherty Intrepid Video TV/VCR 263 S Front St Steelton PA 17113 fax...717-564-4952 www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "LeRoy Westlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical problem)
Hi Mark, and fellow techs. I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I don't want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have to. A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size of the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for PTVs. I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for the FREE estimate. Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to buy a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the price that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is not any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. I will have to convence them of that. In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to discourage them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain that there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this because I am desperate. If I had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but, things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective areas. You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,..... ;-)
LLW
LeRoy Westlund Westlund TV & Electronics 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Wentowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: RE: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was verticalprblm)
Jeff's a damned good tech Leroy. Nobody ever doubted that.Lifting
What's going on in Utah. Fun fun fun
Mark Wentowski Perry Hill Electronics 3836 Harrison Rd. Montgomery AL 36109 phone: (334)279-5622 fax: (334)273-9050 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:21 AM To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was verticalprblm)
Well,....I'll be damned ! I wish I hadn't thrown mine away already. Jeff,...you are a better tech then me. Congradulations. ;-(
LLW
LeRoy Westlund Westlund TV & Electronics 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message----- From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was verticalprblm)
Don't applaud,..........throw money!!!conclusion my final fault was not in
Doug Keller Wis-Kel Electronics 101 Freeland Ave. Terra Alta, WV USA 26764 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tech-assist.org "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
Intrepid Video Support wrote:
Persistence pays off again...
After spending a lot of time in the vertical section, I came to the
the yoke, I got a horizontalthis circuit. It was confusing since removing the vertical connector for
line..
In my checks of IC271, I found my voltage low on pin 18(s/b 5.1v).
the pin and the voltage cameshows
and isolated problem to CRT boardup.
On connector J251, I had 1K ohms resistance pin 5 to ground, unsoldered
as other techs had suggested. I thought I ruled the CRT board out as
video on the scope on each ICupdates
replace in the beginning)and injected video and the screen lit up.
Tracing the path back I found the final two video out IC's(that I did not
were shorted.actually had pins 5 shorted to ground, lifted to confirm that pins 4,5
original EEPROM back in set andReplaced IC's and screen lit up, though decreased vertical...I put the
couldn't have completed this taskpicture was perfect.
I appreciate everyone that sent schematics and offered their help. I
vertical prblm)without the help from this list.. Thank you.
Jeff Dougherty Intrepid Video TV/VCR 263 S Front St Steelton PA 17113 fax...717-564-4952 www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Intrepid Video Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: [Techs] 2nd REQ... TA...NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
replaced those and shortedGoing with a fresh post on this one. I still can't find the problem.
First thing, I found the resistors and diodes for the 13 (-/+) lines bad,
on CRT board. Also, R50vertical IC.
Then, I had raster that was red with retrace, found the RED video IC bad
With the NTE in, I get some videoopen..replaced, then back to no video.
I've tried three more vertical out IC's all OEM and NTE, still no video.
p-p, replaced IC..no fix.very top of screen about 1/4 inch across.
On IC271, 46/47, voltages were about a volt low and wave forms were low
shows about 50 vpp, very high.Wave forms in/out of SAW filter are OK.
On pin 1 over vertical yoke, which comes from pin 5 of vertical wave form
with OEM numbers, went over thePin 6,7 of vertical show low pp voltage.
I've went over and over my traces solder, replace the resistors and diode
LED flashes. I checked the yokeCRT board again.
If I remove the vertical plug, I do get a horizontal line and the power
these wave forms to vary.and it is about 1 ohm off from one on another set.
I have the schematic of this section, but am not sure what is causing
the same problem and have neverI put in another Philips IC and the wave forms are even farther off.
Any other ideas before I scrap this set...I've done many of these B8 for
updates free.had this type of trouble, Thank you.
Jeff Dougherty
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