Doug, how far away is the next town? Maybe you could strike up a deal
with the laundra-mat or somewhere to be a drop-off point where people
could take their TV's and you come along a couple times a week and pick
them up for repair. I've seen places in nearby towns around here where
this is set up.



Gary McCartney

McCartney Electronics
Guelph Ontario Canada 
Est. 1984
email: gary (at) number63.ca







Doug Keller wrote:
> 
> Exactly. In a rural area like I'm in you have to be nice to EVERY
> customer. You can't p*ss one off knowing that there are two more to take
> his place, because there aren't more to take his place. You lose him you
> play on the computer until another comes along. I found out the other
> day that the town is down to a population of about 1300. It was 1700 4
> years ago. No wonder it seems if business keeps getting more and more
> scarce.
> 
> Doug Keller
> Wis-Kel Electronics
> 101 Freeland Ave.
> Terra Alta, WV
> USA        26764
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.tech-assist.org
> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> 
> Intrepid Video Support wrote:
> 
> >LeRoy,
> >More power to you. No one has any business telling you how to run your business and 
> >it annoys me when
> >other techs tell you NOT to give free estimates, to charge more, etc...
> >Some of us have to use some creative selling techniques to bring in more business.
> >I some times spend 15 minutes encouraging a customer to leave their set. When you 
> >have nothing to
> >repair..you appreciate the ones that will leave their set and agree to a reasonable 
> >repair bill.
> >
> >Jeff Dougherty
> >Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> >263 S Front St
> >Steelton PA 17113
> >fax...717-564-4952
> >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "LeRoy Westlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM
> >Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical problem)
> >
> >
> >Hi Mark, and fellow techs.
> >I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want
> >anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I don't
> >want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have to.
> >A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise
> >diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size of
> >the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for
> >PTVs.
> >I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for the
> >FREE estimate.
> >Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to buy
> >a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the price
> >that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is not
> >any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of
> >course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch.
> >I will have to convence them of that.
> >In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to
> >start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to discourage
> >them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the
> >BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain that
> >there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be
> >fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing  this because I am desperate. If I
> >had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but,
> >things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day
> >that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective areas.
> >You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at
> >their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,.....
> >;-)
> >
> >LLW
> >
> >LeRoy Westlund
> >Westlund TV & Electronics
> >97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
> >Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
> >Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
> >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mark Wentowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:57 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
> >verticalprblm)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Jeff's a damned good tech Leroy. Nobody ever doubted that.
> >>
> >>What's going on in Utah. Fun fun fun
> >>
> >>Mark Wentowski
> >>Perry Hill Electronics
> >>3836 Harrison Rd.
> >>Montgomery AL 36109
> >>phone: (334)279-5622
> >>fax:   (334)273-9050
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:21 AM
> >>To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> >>Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
> >>verticalprblm)
> >>
> >>
> >>Well,....I'll be damned !
> >>I wish I hadn't thrown mine away already.
> >>Jeff,...you are a better tech then me.
> >>Congradulations.
> >>;-(
> >>
> >>LLW
> >>
> >>LeRoy Westlund
> >>Westlund TV & Electronics
> >>97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
> >>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
> >>Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
> >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:11 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was
> >>verticalprblm)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Don't applaud,..........throw money!!!
> >>>
> >>>Doug Keller
> >>>Wis-Kel Electronics
> >>>101 Freeland Ave.
> >>>Terra Alta, WV
> >>>USA        26764
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>http://www.tech-assist.org
> >>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> >>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Intrepid Video Support wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Persistence pays off again...
> >>>>After spending a lot of time in the vertical section, I came to the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>conclusion my final fault was not in
> >>
> >>
> >>>>this circuit. It was confusing since removing the vertical connector for
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>the yoke, I got a horizontal
> >>
> >>
> >>>>line..
> >>>>In my checks of IC271, I found my voltage low on pin 18(s/b 5.1v).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >Lifting
> >
> >
> >>the pin and the voltage came
> >>
> >>
> >>>>up.
> >>>>On connector J251, I had 1K ohms resistance pin 5 to ground, unsoldered
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>and isolated problem to CRT board
> >>
> >>
> >>>>as other techs had suggested. I thought I ruled the CRT board out as
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >shows
> >
> >
> >>video on the scope on each IC
> >>
> >>
> >>>>and injected video and the screen lit up.
> >>>>Tracing the path back I found the final two video out IC's(that I did not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>replace in the beginning)
> >>
> >>
> >>>>actually had pins 5 shorted to ground, lifted to confirm that pins 4,5
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>were shorted.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Replaced IC's and screen lit up, though decreased vertical...I put the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>original EEPROM back in set and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>picture was perfect.
> >>>>I appreciate everyone that sent schematics and offered their help. I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>couldn't have completed this task
> >>
> >>
> >>>>without the help from this list..
> >>>>Thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>>Jeff Dougherty
> >>>>Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> >>>>263 S Front St
> >>>>Steelton PA 17113
> >>>>fax...717-564-4952
> >>>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Intrepid Video Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:04 PM
> >>>>Subject: [Techs] 2nd REQ... TA...NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>vertical prblm)
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Going with a fresh post on this one. I still can't find the problem.
> >>>>First thing, I found the resistors and diodes for the 13 (-/+) lines bad,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>replaced those and shorted
> >>
> >>
> >>>>vertical IC.
> >>>>Then, I had raster that was red with retrace, found the RED video IC bad
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>on CRT board. Also, R50
> >>
> >>
> >>>>open..replaced, then back to no video.
> >>>>I've tried three more vertical out IC's all OEM and NTE, still no video.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>With the NTE in, I get some video
> >>
> >>
> >>>>very top of screen about 1/4 inch across.
> >>>>On IC271, 46/47, voltages were about a volt low and wave forms were low
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>p-p, replaced IC..no fix.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Wave forms in/out of SAW filter are OK.
> >>>>On pin 1 over vertical yoke, which comes from pin 5 of vertical wave form
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>shows about 50 vpp, very high.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Pin 6,7 of vertical show low pp voltage.
> >>>>I've went over and over my traces solder, replace the resistors and diode
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>with OEM numbers, went over the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>CRT board again.
> >>>>If I remove the vertical plug, I do get a horizontal line and the power
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>LED flashes. I checked the yoke
> >>
> >>
> >>>>and it is about 1 ohm off from one on another set.
> >>>>I have the schematic of this section, but am not sure what is causing
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>these wave forms to vary.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>I put in another Philips IC and the wave forms are even farther off.
> >>>>Any other ideas before I scrap this set...I've done many of these B8 for
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>the same problem and have never
> >>
> >>
> >>>>had this type of trouble,
> >>>>Thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>>Jeff Dougherty
> >>>>
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