I don't leave the shop until I have the fee in writing. Samsung will pay out the axx because they have no other choice.
Mark Wentowski Perry Hill Electronics 3836 Harrison Rd. Montgomery AL 36109 phone: (334)279-5622 fax: (334)273-9050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eugene Spooner Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 9:10 PM To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST Subject: Re: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was vertical problem) About 1980 ; was getting embarrassed in asking "How do you turn it on ?" Really , it was so many idiots out there advertising "Free Service Calls" and there were too many "Butchered Up Sets" that were landfill candidates. It was really blatant fraud as they did not try to repair the set and mangled it up so that it HAD to come in regardless. Missing this and that. One Quasar set had all of the panels missing. Final straw was the 'going rate' for a service call was "$29.95" and I calculated that I needed $75.00 per call to make it worth my while. Absolute Final was bookeeping said I was making a profit of $0.11 per call after paying all ( including the Guy driving the Truck/Van ) when ours was $42.50 ! Damn ! Best: Eugene Mark Wentowski wrote: > > When is the last time you made a service call Eugene. We are both lazy > axxholes. I've been steering clear of service calls for years but now guys > like al an Jeff are hitting the streets. I do have a warranty call on Monday > for a Samsung but other than that I usually sit in the shop and think about > what to try next. > > Mark Wentowski > Perry Hill Electronics > 3836 Harrison Rd. > Montgomery AL 36109 > phone: (334)279-5622 > fax: (334)273-9050 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eugene Spooner > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:16 PM > To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST > Subject: Re: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was > vertical problem) > > If so , be sure to Charge a minimum of $200.00 as you are > going to have to get an Electric Hand Cart with a lifting > table on it and a Can of Dawg repeller. > Best: Eugene > > Ed Gaidies wrote: > > > > Do what you need to survive. I may have to start doing Service Calls > again. > > > > -Ed- > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > Ontario-Canada > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "LeRoy Westlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM > > Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical > > problem) > > > > > Hi Mark, and fellow techs. > > > I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want > > > anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I > don't > > > want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have > > to. > > > A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise > > > diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size > of > > > the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for > > > PTVs. > > > I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for > > the > > > FREE estimate. > > > Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to > > buy > > > a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the > price > > > that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is > not > > > any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of > > > course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. > > > I will have to convence them of that. > > > In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to > > > start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to > discourage > > > them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the > > > BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain > that > > > there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be > > > fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this because I am desperate. If > I > > > had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but, > > > things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each > day > > > that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective > areas. > > > You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World > at > > > their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,..... > > > ;-) > > > > > > LLW > > > > > > LeRoy Westlund > > > Westlund TV & Electronics > > > 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... > > > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." > > > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Wentowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:57 PM > > > Subject: RE: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > > > verticalprblm) > > > > > > > > > >Jeff's a damned good tech Leroy. Nobody ever doubted that. > > > > > > > >What's going on in Utah. Fun fun fun > > > > > > > >Mark Wentowski > > > >Perry Hill Electronics > > > >3836 Harrison Rd. > > > >Montgomery AL 36109 > > > >phone: (334)279-5622 > > > >fax: (334)273-9050 > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund > > > >Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:21 AM > > > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST > > > >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > > > >verticalprblm) > > > > > > > > > > > >Well,....I'll be damned ! > > > >I wish I hadn't thrown mine away already. > > > >Jeff,...you are a better tech then me. > > > >Congradulations. > > > >;-( > > > > > > > >LLW > > > > > > > >LeRoy Westlund > > > >Westlund TV & Electronics > > > >97 North Main "Where there's a will,... > > > >Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." > > > >Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > > > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:11 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was > > > >verticalprblm) > > > > > > > > > > > >>Don't applaud,..........throw money!!! > > > >> > > > >>Doug Keller > > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics > > > >>101 Freeland Ave. > > > >>Terra Alta, WV > > > >>USA 26764 > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org > > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Intrepid Video Support wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>Persistence pays off again... > > > >>>After spending a lot of time in the vertical section, I came to the > > > >conclusion my final fault was not in > > > >>>this circuit. It was confusing since removing the vertical connector > > for > > > >the yoke, I got a horizontal > > > >>>line.. > > > >>>In my checks of IC271, I found my voltage low on pin 18(s/b 5.1v). > > > Lifting > > > >the pin and the voltage came > > > >>>up. > > > >>>On connector J251, I had 1K ohms resistance pin 5 to ground, > unsoldered > > > >and isolated problem to CRT board > > > >>>as other techs had suggested. I thought I ruled the CRT board out as > > > shows > > > >video on the scope on each IC > > > >>>and injected video and the screen lit up. > > > >>>Tracing the path back I found the final two video out IC's(that I did > > not > > > >replace in the beginning) > > > >>>actually had pins 5 shorted to ground, lifted to confirm that pins > 4,5 > > > >were shorted. > > > >>>Replaced IC's and screen lit up, though decreased vertical...I put > the > > > >original EEPROM back in set and > > > >>>picture was perfect. > > > >>>I appreciate everyone that sent schematics and offered their help. I > > > >couldn't have completed this task > > > >>>without the help from this list.. > > > >>>Thank you. > > > >>> > > > >>>Jeff Dougherty > > > >>>Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > > >>>263 S Front St > > > >>>Steelton PA 17113 > > > >>>fax...717-564-4952 > > > >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > >>> > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>From: "Intrepid Video Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:04 PM > > > >>>Subject: [Techs] 2nd REQ... TA...NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > > > >vertical prblm) > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Going with a fresh post on this one. I still can't find the problem. > > > >>>First thing, I found the resistors and diodes for the 13 (-/+) lines > > bad, > > > >replaced those and shorted > > > >>>vertical IC. > > > >>>Then, I had raster that was red with retrace, found the RED video IC > > bad > > > >on CRT board. Also, R50 > > > >>>open..replaced, then back to no video. > > > >>>I've tried three more vertical out IC's all OEM and NTE, still no > > video. > > > >With the NTE in, I get some video > > > >>>very top of screen about 1/4 inch across. > > > >>>On IC271, 46/47, voltages were about a volt low and wave forms were > low > > > >p-p, replaced IC..no fix. > > > >>>Wave forms in/out of SAW filter are OK. > > > >>>On pin 1 over vertical yoke, which comes from pin 5 of vertical wave > > form > > > >shows about 50 vpp, very high. > > > >>>Pin 6,7 of vertical show low pp voltage. > > > >>>I've went over and over my traces solder, replace the resistors and > > diode > > > >with OEM numbers, went over the > > > >>>CRT board again. > > > >>>If I remove the vertical plug, I do get a horizontal line and the > power > > > >LED flashes. I checked the yoke > > > >>>and it is about 1 ohm off from one on another set. > > > >>>I have the schematic of this section, but am not sure what is causing > > > >these wave forms to vary. > > > >>>I put in another Philips IC and the wave forms are even farther off. > > > >>>Any other ideas before I scrap this set...I've done many of these B8 > > for > > > >the same problem and have never > > > >>>had this type of trouble, > > > >>>Thank you. > > > >>> > > > >>>Jeff Dougherty > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > > >>>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > > > >updates free. > > > >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > >>>Techs mailing list > > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > >>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > > > updates > > > >free. > > > >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > >>Techs mailing list > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > > updates > > > >free. > > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > >Techs mailing list > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > > updates > > > free. > > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > >Techs mailing list > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > > updates free. > > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > Techs mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > updates free. > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > Techs mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > -- > Head Witch Doctor and Chief Bottle Washer > Eugene Spooner , CET , AAS , NP > Eugene's Carry-In TV > 1417 Eastway Drive > Charlotte , NC 28205 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates > free. > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > Techs mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > Techs mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com -- Head Witch Doctor and Chief Bottle Washer Eugene Spooner , CET , AAS , NP Eugene's Carry-In TV 1417 Eastway Drive Charlotte , NC 28205 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com _______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com
