When is the last time you made a service call Eugene. We are both lazy axxholes. I've been steering clear of service calls for years but now guys like al an Jeff are hitting the streets. I do have a warranty call on Monday for a Samsung but other than that I usually sit in the shop and think about what to try next.
Mark Wentowski Perry Hill Electronics 3836 Harrison Rd. Montgomery AL 36109 phone: (334)279-5622 fax: (334)273-9050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eugene Spooner Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:16 PM To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST Subject: Re: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was vertical problem) If so , be sure to Charge a minimum of $200.00 as you are going to have to get an Electric Hand Cart with a lifting table on it and a Can of Dawg repeller. Best: Eugene Ed Gaidies wrote: > > Do what you need to survive. I may have to start doing Service Calls again. > > -Ed- > > Tel-Tek Electronics > Ontario-Canada > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LeRoy Westlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM > Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical > problem) > > > Hi Mark, and fellow techs. > > I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want > > anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I don't > > want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have > to. > > A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise > > diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size of > > the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for > > PTVs. > > I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for > the > > FREE estimate. > > Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to > buy > > a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the price > > that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is not > > any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of > > course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. > > I will have to convence them of that. > > In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to > > start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to discourage > > them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the > > BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain that > > there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be > > fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this because I am desperate. If I > > had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but, > > things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day > > that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective areas. > > You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at > > their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,..... > > ;-) > > > > LLW > > > > LeRoy Westlund > > Westlund TV & Electronics > > 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... > > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." > > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Wentowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:57 PM > > Subject: RE: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > > verticalprblm) > > > > > > >Jeff's a damned good tech Leroy. Nobody ever doubted that. > > > > > >What's going on in Utah. Fun fun fun > > > > > >Mark Wentowski > > >Perry Hill Electronics > > >3836 Harrison Rd. > > >Montgomery AL 36109 > > >phone: (334)279-5622 > > >fax: (334)273-9050 > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund > > >Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:21 AM > > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST > > >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > > >verticalprblm) > > > > > > > > >Well,....I'll be damned ! > > >I wish I hadn't thrown mine away already. > > >Jeff,...you are a better tech then me. > > >Congradulations. > > >;-( > > > > > >LLW > > > > > >LeRoy Westlund > > >Westlund TV & Electronics > > >97 North Main "Where there's a will,... > > >Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." > > >Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 > > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:11 AM > > >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was > > >verticalprblm) > > > > > > > > >>Don't applaud,..........throw money!!! > > >> > > >>Doug Keller > > >>Wis-Kel Electronics > > >>101 Freeland Ave. > > >>Terra Alta, WV > > >>USA 26764 > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>http://www.tech-assist.org > > >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Intrepid Video Support wrote: > > >> > > >>>Persistence pays off again... > > >>>After spending a lot of time in the vertical section, I came to the > > >conclusion my final fault was not in > > >>>this circuit. It was confusing since removing the vertical connector > for > > >the yoke, I got a horizontal > > >>>line.. > > >>>In my checks of IC271, I found my voltage low on pin 18(s/b 5.1v). > > Lifting > > >the pin and the voltage came > > >>>up. > > >>>On connector J251, I had 1K ohms resistance pin 5 to ground, unsoldered > > >and isolated problem to CRT board > > >>>as other techs had suggested. I thought I ruled the CRT board out as > > shows > > >video on the scope on each IC > > >>>and injected video and the screen lit up. > > >>>Tracing the path back I found the final two video out IC's(that I did > not > > >replace in the beginning) > > >>>actually had pins 5 shorted to ground, lifted to confirm that pins 4,5 > > >were shorted. > > >>>Replaced IC's and screen lit up, though decreased vertical...I put the > > >original EEPROM back in set and > > >>>picture was perfect. > > >>>I appreciate everyone that sent schematics and offered their help. I > > >couldn't have completed this task > > >>>without the help from this list.. > > >>>Thank you. > > >>> > > >>>Jeff Dougherty > > >>>Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > >>>263 S Front St > > >>>Steelton PA 17113 > > >>>fax...717-564-4952 > > >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > >>> > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From: "Intrepid Video Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:04 PM > > >>>Subject: [Techs] 2nd REQ... TA...NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was > > >vertical prblm) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Going with a fresh post on this one. I still can't find the problem. > > >>>First thing, I found the resistors and diodes for the 13 (-/+) lines > bad, > > >replaced those and shorted > > >>>vertical IC. > > >>>Then, I had raster that was red with retrace, found the RED video IC > bad > > >on CRT board. Also, R50 > > >>>open..replaced, then back to no video. > > >>>I've tried three more vertical out IC's all OEM and NTE, still no > video. > > >With the NTE in, I get some video > > >>>very top of screen about 1/4 inch across. > > >>>On IC271, 46/47, voltages were about a volt low and wave forms were low > > >p-p, replaced IC..no fix. > > >>>Wave forms in/out of SAW filter are OK. > > >>>On pin 1 over vertical yoke, which comes from pin 5 of vertical wave > form > > >shows about 50 vpp, very high. > > >>>Pin 6,7 of vertical show low pp voltage. > > >>>I've went over and over my traces solder, replace the resistors and > diode > > >with OEM numbers, went over the > > >>>CRT board again. > > >>>If I remove the vertical plug, I do get a horizontal line and the power > > >LED flashes. I checked the yoke > > >>>and it is about 1 ohm off from one on another set. > > >>>I have the schematic of this section, but am not sure what is causing > > >these wave forms to vary. > > >>>I put in another Philips IC and the wave forms are even farther off. > > >>>Any other ideas before I scrap this set...I've done many of these B8 > for > > >the same problem and have never > > >>>had this type of trouble, > > >>>Thank you. > > >>> > > >>>Jeff Dougherty > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > > >updates free. > > >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > >>>Techs mailing list > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > > updates > > >free. > > >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > >>Techs mailing list > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > updates > > >free. > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > >Techs mailing list > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > updates > > free. > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > >Techs mailing list > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of > updates free. > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > Techs mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > Techs mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com -- Head Witch Doctor and Chief Bottle Washer Eugene Spooner , CET , AAS , NP Eugene's Carry-In TV 1417 Eastway Drive Charlotte , NC 28205 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com _______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com
