Or it's all the same and it's cheaper or more expensive to license UE packs 
depending on the end device?

In which case, just buy the cheaper license. 

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 18:33, Nathan Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> This is the same question I have.
> 
> I'd also point out that, right or wrong (and I'm not making a judgment call 
> here), as I recall, it was a rumor of this exact thing that, in some people's 
> minds, lent some credence to the accusation that standards-compliance was 
> being sacrificed.
> 
> -- Nathan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Vaughn
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] BaiCells on 2020
> 
> Chris, Can you explain this further?
> 
> "Furthermore, we will soon be introducing new pricing for use with Telrad and 
> non-Telrad eNBs."
> 
> It sounds like you can pay for a standard, but that we will not be able to 
> use hardware we have purchase with other vendors unless we pay you more 
> money.  That's not what you are saying, is it?
> 
> 
> Paul R. Vaughn
> Tennessee Wireless
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> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 23:22:41 +0000
> From: chris daniels <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] BaiCells on 2020
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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> Hi Matt,
> 
> I am simply clarifying that our solution is standard, and asking that you not 
> state otherwise.  This is in no way an attack, and your comment that we 
> attack potential customers is absurd.
> 
> When BaiCells stopped working with our core, this was not a bug or broken 
> standard.
> 
> If you would like to have a rational discussion, or learn more about our 
> technology, we are happy to oblige.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I don't think I said anywhere you intentionally broke it. I was asking if 
> anyone successfully had it working. And asking questions based on not having 
> any more knowledge to the situation.
> 
> However - it appears telrad still feels the need to attack any potential 
> customer. The environment of sales at Telrad continues to amaze me.
> 
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 17:58, chris daniels 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Matt,
> 
> Our EPC is compliant with the standard.  Telrad did not break the standard, 
> so please stop making this accusation.  We are working with other eNBs and 
> our eNB is working with other EPCs.
> 
> If this doesn't work, you need to talk with your friends at BaiCells.   We 
> will not troubleshoot their issues.
> 
> I'm sure that BaiCells has a core for you to use correct?
> 
> Furthermore, we will soon be introducing new pricing for use with Telrad and 
> non-Telrad eNBs.
> 
> 
> Chris Daniels
> Vice President & Regional GM, North America | Telrad Networks Ltd.
> T +<tel:+1.859.444.1888>1.859.444.1888<tel:+1.859.444.1888> | 
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> On Dec 5, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hmmmm. I thought they fixed the "bug"?  So they broke the lte standard?
> 
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 17:40, Adair Winter 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> It used to work. Doesn't anymore. but it's been awhile.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> Had anyone here successfully connected a BaiCells eNB to a Telrad 2020 EPC?
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> From: Nathan Anderson <[email protected]>
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> If it is the Baicells ENB that is dropping the S1 session, then it does seem 
> as though the issue/blame likely sits with Baicells.
> 
> I am curious though: if the standard is a standard is a standard, why a need 
> for different pricing for non-Telrad ENBs?  Shouldn't the EPC 
> licensing/pricing not distinguish between one vendor's ENB and another's?
> 
> -- Nathan
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> chris daniels
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 2:58 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Nick Dewar
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] BaiCells on 2020
> 
> Matt,
> 
> Our EPC is compliant with the standard.  Telrad did not break the standard, 
> so please stop making this accusation.  We are working with other eNBs and 
> our eNB is working with other EPCs.
> 
> If this doesn't work, you need to talk with your friends at BaiCells.   We 
> will not troubleshoot their issues.
> 
> I'm sure that BaiCells has a core for you to use correct?
> 
> Furthermore, we will soon be introducing new pricing for use with Telrad and 
> non-Telrad eNBs.
> 
> 
> Chris Daniels
> Vice President & Regional GM, North America | Telrad Networks Ltd.
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> On Dec 5, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> Hmmmm. I thought they fixed the "bug"?  So they broke the lte standard?
> 
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 17:40, Adair Winter 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> It used to work. Doesn't anymore. but it's been awhile.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
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> Had anyone here successfully connected a BaiCells eNB to a Telrad 2020 EPC?
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