All of us have political futures to think about. We can all exercise our better judgment about posting pictures to the Internet. Let's come to an agreement.
TJ A.S.S. 09' Sent from TJ's iPhone On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:30 PM, "Linda Palit" <[email protected]> wrote: > I remember a guy with a video camera at the hot tub who was finally asked to > leave because he kept taking pictures. It was a long time ago, and I felt > slightly offended, but had no fears that the video would show up some place > to embarrass me in my workplace. > > That was the community Thomas is talking about asking the guy to leave when > he would not respect requests to stop. > > We have a lot of cavers from a lot of fields of work with differing standards > and differing ideas of “reasonable” behavior. With publicizing photos being > so easy now, I think it is a good time to bring this to wider awareness and > decide this is a reasonable policy. Cavers do form a community, and we need > to protect the interests of those who would feel (and be) vulnerable without > this protection. > > > > Linda > > > > From: Thomas Sitch [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 4:01 PM > To: Cave Tex > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy - community needs to > enforce > > > > We've consistently had people crowding in with cameras during the ramen > noodle wrestling (later mud wrestling). I've taken the occassional picture, > although mine never go online. Nontheless, I'm happy to trade asking people > permission to photograph them for everybody feeling more comfortable about > how they want to express themselves. > > > > I think that we, as a community, need to decide to enforce this policy. If > everyone keeps a weather eye out, and politely asks camera barers to put the > cell phones or cameras away (and potentially flags folks who refuse to > comply), we'll actually have a better experience. > > > > ~~Thomas > > --- On Fri, 10/8/10, Diana Tomchick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Diana Tomchick <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy > To: "Cave Tex" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 3:11 PM > > You know, I hate to have to say it, but if you're concerned about the people > at work or in your family or wherever seeing you naked in a photo (or doing > whatever crazy thing), then don't do it during the daylight hours at TCR. > That way no one can take an embarrassing photo of you. > > When 350+ people attend an event, there's no way you can really consider that > to be a "private gathering"--and it has always been this way, even before the > advent of social networking sites and the Internet. > > Diana > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Diana R. Tomchick > Associate Professor > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > Department of Biochemistry > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. > Rm. ND10.214B > Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. > Email: [email protected] > 214-645-6383 (phone) > 214-645-6353 (fax) > > > > On Oct 8, 2010, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Agreed, Butch, and the same with The TEXAS CAVER. > > > > I always try to make sure that whatever I print, I would be comfortable > > with if it was one of my family members or on the cover of the local > > newspaper (remember those?). > > > > If it would embarrass someone or is cave/landowner sensitive, i.e., gives > > directions to a certain cave, it doesn't go in. > > > > Luckily, neither has been a problem. > > > > BUT, in the age of Facebook and every yahoo in existence having a cellphone > > with a camera, how you will ever be able control this is beyond me. > > > > The genie is out of the bottle and it, along with personal privacy, has > > gone the way of the chariot and carbide. > > > > (See the Rutgers incident). > > > > > > Rest assured that Butch and I will be the epitome of privacy and good > > taste, relatively speaking in a caver sense. > > > > > > All the other avenues, good luck with all that! > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > P.S. - I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed sooner, this week or in > > prior years. > > > > > > > > From: Butch Fralia [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Fri 10/8/2010 9:01 AM > > To: 'Saj Zappitello'; [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy > > > > Is this an official policy or? > > > > Wouldn’t it be easier to just say don’t take photos of naked people? > > > > TCR is a difficult place to get photo permission for everyone in the photo, > > there could be hundreds. If we have to ask permission from everyone in > > the photo there wont be a TCR photo spread ever again. We always try to > > keep the website decent and not embarrass anyone. If they are embarrassed, > > they can request a photo be removed. > > > > Butch > > > > From: Saj Zappitello [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:51 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy > > > > In the new generation of social networking sites (like facebook) and a > > global digital footprint, some of us have been brainstorming new ways to > > keep TCR a fun and free-spirited retreat from our usual social inhibitions. > > Our solution is to request that everyone participate in a new photography > > policy that has worked well at other free-spirited gatherings. > > > > Please DO NOT take photographs of anyone without their permission, and > > certainly do not post photographs of anyone online without permission. > > > > The way this works is simple--just ask people before you take their > > photograph, and ask them again if you want to post photos online. > > > > We will post a reminder of this new policy at registration. Let's keep this > > event fun and wild! > > > > Feel free to respond to me OFF LIST if you have comments about this. > > > > Thanks and happy caving! > > ~Saj > > > ________________________________ > > UT Southwestern Medical Center > The future of medicine, today. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
