It does seem to me that this is an issue of common sense and personal responsibility, but a good one to bring up, since a lot of people seem to be oblivious to it. On the photography front, people need to be conscientious of how they distribute the photos they take at TCR. Many people behave in ways at TCR that they would not dare even dream of in their "normal" lives. Please respect their separation of caver lifestyle from everything else by not allowing TCR photos to be viewed by the non-caver world. The internet totally counts as the non-caver world. On the naked people front, if you're at TCR naked, lots of people are going to see you, including people you don't know. If it would compromise your financial and/or social well-being to be documented being naked, please be very careful of where you are seen naked. While I would like to believe that no caver would maliciously use compromising photos to hurt another caver, unintended and naive use of those photos can and will happen. Please exercise some personal responsibility for your happiness, and don't put yourself in the position to be hurt by some talented photographer's slide show of your gorgeous and very naked self on the TCR float flaunting it for everyone to see. I think if everyone just keeps the above ideas in mind, there will be no need for overarching policies on "no photo zones" and the potential litigious action following the inevitable disregard of those polices. Just my two cents.
Sandi On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM, freddie poer <[email protected]>wrote: > Or anyone who may be worried about being "overexposed" could simply wear a > mask ala Mardi Gras. > > --- On *Fri, 10/8/10, Gill Edigar <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Gill Edigar <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy > To: "Butch Fralia" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 11:10 PM > > > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Butch Fralia > <[email protected]<http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Is this an official policy or? > > The deal is that just because someone tacitly agrees to have their > picture taken in (or out of) costume during TCR does not and should > not be construed as any sort of permission to 3rd parties to post > photos of them to open source internet sites. Keep them in your > private collections, if you like, share them at private parties (i.e.: > after Grotto meeting parties, etc) amongst friends, but don't put them > out for public consumption--by any means. TCR is a private party of > cavers and what happens there should pretty much be kept there. > > To the best of my memory there has never been an "official policy" on > anything at TCR. There are guidelines that comply with the free spirit > of TCR and people are expected to use good judgement and common sense > in the interpreting of those guidelines. That means that people are > given the freedom and responsibility to police their own actions to a > modicum of social (within the caving community) acceptability. If you > wouldn't want your revealing photos posted on the internet (even if > there actually are none) assume that no one else wants their's posted > either. Then, "don't post anybody else's" would be the guideline on > this one. > > Diana's suggestion is the 'safety fuse' on this matter. To be > absolutely safe, don't appear in public in a way you wouldn't want to > be seen. While that is the logical ultimate solution, it does not > allow for the concept that TCR is provided as a safe place to turn > kids, dogs, and yourself loose for the weekend and enjoy some freedoms > that must be kept penned up during one's daily visits to the real > world. By respecting other peoples' personal privacy, though shared > with you at TCR, to not have photos of them posted on the internet, > can we be sure that TCR will remain a safe place to turn dogs and kids > and yourself loose for the weekend. > > Please understand that this is my personal observation and opinion on > the matter. > --Ediger > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected]<http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected]<http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > >
