You know, I hate to have to say it, but if you're concerned about the people at 
work or in your family or wherever seeing you naked in a photo (or doing 
whatever crazy thing), then don't do it during the daylight hours at TCR. That 
way no one can take an embarrassing photo of you.

When 350+ people attend an event, there's no way you can really consider that 
to be a "private gathering"--and it has always been this way, even before the 
advent of social networking sites and the Internet.

Diana

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Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
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Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
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On Oct 8, 2010, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:

>
> Agreed, Butch, and the same with The TEXAS CAVER.
>
> I always try to make sure that whatever I print, I would be comfortable with 
> if it was one of my family members or on the cover of the local newspaper 
> (remember those?).
>
> If it would embarrass someone or is cave/landowner sensitive, i.e., gives 
> directions to a certain cave, it doesn't go in.
>
> Luckily, neither has been a problem.
>
> BUT, in the age of Facebook and every yahoo in existence having a cellphone 
> with a camera, how you will ever be able control this is beyond me.
>
> The genie is out of the bottle and it, along with personal privacy, has gone 
> the way of the chariot and carbide.
>
> (See the Rutgers incident).
>
>
> Rest assured that Butch and I will be the epitome of privacy and good taste, 
> relatively speaking in a caver sense.
>
>
> All the other avenues, good luck with all that!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> P.S. - I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed sooner, this week or in prior 
> years.
>
>
>
> From: Butch Fralia [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Fri 10/8/2010 9:01 AM
> To: 'Saj Zappitello'; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy
>
> Is this an official policy or?
>
> Wouldn’t it be easier to just say don’t take photos of naked people?
>
> TCR is a difficult place to get photo permission for everyone in the photo, 
> there could be hundreds.   If we have to ask permission from everyone in the 
> photo there wont be a TCR photo spread ever again.  We always try to keep the 
> website decent and not embarrass anyone.  If they are embarrassed, they can 
> request a photo be removed.
>
> Butch
>
> From: Saj Zappitello [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy
>
> In the new generation of social networking sites (like facebook) and a global 
> digital footprint, some of us have been brainstorming new ways to keep TCR a 
> fun and free-spirited retreat from our usual social inhibitions. Our solution 
> is to request that everyone participate in a new photography policy that has 
> worked well at other free-spirited gatherings.
>
> Please DO NOT take photographs of anyone without their permission, and 
> certainly do not post photographs of anyone online without permission.
>
> The way this works is simple--just ask people before you take their 
> photograph, and ask them again if you want to post photos online.
>
> We will post a reminder of this new policy at registration. Let's keep this 
> event fun and wild!
>
> Feel free to respond to me OFF LIST if you have comments about this.
>
> Thanks and happy caving!
> ~Saj


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