You don't have to leave your camera at home. Just use a little common sense
and have a little RESPECT folks. Give it a try, at least! This is a simple
policy with a lot of avenues of interpretation for a reason. Nudity, partial
nudity, inebriation, all of these things are more fun without a lot of
incriminating photos the next week.

If you don't like this policy, then I challenge you to spend all day
saturday wearing nothing but paint, a thong, and a sign around your neck
that says "please take my picture." ...Actually, I think that could be a lot
of fun ;) ...but I don't think I'd want to see those photos in the Texas
Caver...

~Saj

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:09 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Agreed, Butch, and the same with *The TEXAS CAVER.*
> **
> I always try to make sure that whatever I print, I would be comfortable
> with if it was one of my family members or on the cover of the local
> newspaper (remember those?).
>
> If it would embarrass someone or is cave/landowner sensitive, i.e., gives
> directions to a certain cave, it doesn't go in.
>
> Luckily, neither has been a problem.
>
> BUT, in the age of Facebook and every yahoo in existence having a cellphone
> with a camera, how you will ever be able control this is beyond me.
>
> The genie is out of the bottle and it, along with personal privacy, has
> gone the way of the chariot and carbide.
>
> (See the Rutgers incident).
>
>
> Rest assured that Butch and I will be the epitome of privacy and good
> taste, relatively speaking in a caver sense.
>
>
> All the other avenues, good luck with all that!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> P.S. - I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed sooner, this week or in
> prior years.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Butch Fralia [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Fri 10/8/2010 9:01 AM
>
> *To:* 'Saj Zappitello'; [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy
>
>  Is this an official policy or?
>
>
>
> Wouldn’t it be easier to just say don’t take photos of naked people?
>
>
>
> TCR is a difficult place to get photo permission for everyone in the photo,
> there could be hundreds.   If we have to ask permission from everyone in the
> photo there wont be a TCR photo spread ever again.  We always try to keep
> the website decent and not embarrass anyone.  If they are embarrassed, they
> can request a photo be removed.
>
>
>
> Butch
>
>
>
> *From:* Saj Zappitello [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:51 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy
>
>
>
> In the new generation of social networking sites (like facebook) and a
> global digital footprint, some of us have been brainstorming new ways to
> keep TCR a fun and free-spirited retreat from our usual social inhibitions.
> Our solution is to request that everyone participate in a new photography
> policy that has worked well at other free-spirited gatherings.
>
>
>
> Please DO NOT take photographs of anyone without their permission, and
> certainly do not post photographs of anyone online without permission.
>
>
>
> The way this works is simple--just ask people before you take their
> photograph, and ask them again if you want to post photos online.
>
>
>
> We will post a reminder of this new policy at registration. Let's keep this
> event fun and wild!
>
>
>
> Feel free to respond to me OFF LIST if you have comments about this.
>
>
>
> Thanks and happy caving!
>
> ~Saj
>

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