IMO - the Brunton can stay on the collection shelves....I remember numerous 
survey trips with Pete using his favorite Brunton....one trip he called a 
string of alien sounding numbers and quadrants.....after scratching my head for 
a few minutes....I asked him to translate it into “English”. I think he 
converted every shot afterwards.....after the trip I politely suggested that a 
suntos compass might be easier....I don’t think Pete ever agreed and just kept 
using The Brunton.

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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 6:18 PM, JamesJasek <caver...@hot.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Sure would be good to go back to those days
> 
> Sent from my iPhoneX
> 
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Charles Loving <lovingi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Tape and Brunton survey by...... I recall those in early days before Bockbeer 
> and his telenovela.
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 12:12 AM Pete Lindsley <caverp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Logan, I bought a Brass Brunton several years ago off eBay, and the seller 
>> claimed it was an authentic antique. NOT! It is a lower precision “look 
>> alike”, made in India along with similar artsy transits and the like. As I 
>> recall, comparing it to the other 3-4 “real” Bruntons I have, I noted around 
>> 30 differences with an authentic Brunton. Nice to look at, but not a 
>> precision instrument. It took about a month to get my money back (~$30-40).
>> 
>>  - Pete
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Logan <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm interrupting the TexasLockLearList to discuss something that actually 
>> has relevance to caving, and to Lee Jay Graves RIP.
>> 
>> The caving connection is the Brunton Pocket Transit, aka the Brunton 
>> Compass. 
>> Except for the old-timers, most of you probably have never used one, so here 
>> is some background from Wikipedia. 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunton_compass
>> It was commonly used by cavers when I started in Fall 1968.
>> 
>> But over the next several years it had been largely replaced (at least among 
>> the American cavers I knew) by the Suunto compass made in Finland, which are 
>> still popular today. 
>> https://www.suunto.com/en-us/About-Suunto/History-Timeline/
>> In fact for quite a few years a set of the compass and clinometer has been 
>> donated by TSS to the winner of the TCR Survey Contest.
>> 
>> Now the Lee Jay connection: His storage shed needs to be empty by July 31, 
>> so Justin Shaw assembled a team with Galen Falgot, Drew Thompson, Eric Flint 
>> & Meg, and Logan McNatt to go over there Friday July 19th evening. Gil 
>> Ediger loaned his wonderful Isuzu dump truck and we spent several hours 
>> loading over half the contents of the shed. Early the next morning we 
>> unloaded everything onto tables in Gil's front yard for an "Everything Must 
>> Go Fire Sale".
>> 
>> As we emptied the tubs and bags, I noticed something I had never seen 
>> before: a Brass Brunton Pocket Transit, in pristine never-used condition! So 
>> I removed it from the sale items thinking it can go in the Texas 
>> Speleological Center Museum whenever that is transferred from the old TSS 
>> office at the Pickle Research Campus. A Google search showed the image below 
>> which is identical except Lee Jay's is stamped with INDIA rather than 
>> STANLEY LONDON.  It appears to be functional and probably modern. At least 
>> it doesn't say "Made in China"!
>> 
>> Comments and more information on this item are most welcome. Please forward 
>> to other cavers who might have insight.
>> Thanks,
>> Logan McNatt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> END OF INTERRUPTION; RESUME "USUAL" PROGRAMING ON TEXASLOCKLEARLIST
>> 
>> 
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