May not be quite as green as it used to be, but I still think the rest of
the world is pretty brown.

The only thing remotely difficult on the new keyboards is SysRq.

- Alex
-- 
Smart is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.  Wise is knowing better than to
put one in a fruit salad.


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> That "fix" just cost them a set of loyal customers in this household.
>
> Leaving the ThinkPadLand after 13 years, likely for good.
>
> Cheers,
>
> George
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Austin <[email protected]>
> To: tataslon <[email protected]>
> Cc: ross <[email protected]>; ecottrell <[email protected]>;
> Thinkpad <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:39 pm
> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] The new Ivy Bridge (Gen 3) laptops from Lenovo
>
>  Oh, the complaint is layout, not key feel. It does have (almost) the same
> layout as my X120e. And, all my complaints about the X120 layout have been
> fixed (Delete in top-right corner, and PgUp/PgDn being actual keys rather
> than buttons). I've actually had little issue getting used to the smaller
> key count; the issues I mentioned earlier are the only sticking points, and
> it looks like they've been fixed in the T430(s).
>
> - Alex
> --
> Smart is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.  Wise is knowing better than to
> put one in a fruit salad.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You are wrong.
>>
>> The new *30 series keyboard has island-6-row design. T420 has nothing of
>> a kind.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Austin <[email protected]>
>> To: tataslon <[email protected]>
>> Cc: ross <[email protected]>; ecottrell <[email protected]>;
>> Thinkpad <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:23 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] The new Ivy Bridge (Gen 3) laptops from Lenovo
>>
>>  Have you actually tried the keyboard on the X220T? My X120e and my
>> Roommate's T420 both have the new keyboard design, and it still has the
>> same tactile feel as my T23. It is a good, proper implementation of a
>> chiclet-style keyboard, and not squishy like you might expect. It still has
>> the same scissors action underneath that my T23 did. It still has the same
>> inverted-dome shape to the top of the keys. So, while it looks different,
>> it feels just fine as keyboard to me - far better than any of the HP
>> laptops they have where I work.
>>
>> - Alex
>> --
>> Smart is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.  Wise is knowing better than
>> to put one in a fruit salad.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> My thoughts exactly.
>>>
>>> If and when I decide to buy a workstation-class notebook with an IPS
>>> screen and a *6-row island* keyboard it will be an EliteBook, NOT a
>>> ThinkPad.
>>>
>>> The X220T that we received Friday is the last ThinkPad I ever buy new
>>> for as long as Lenovo sticks to the new keyboard design, period.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Ross &lt;[email protected]&gt;
>>> To: Cottrell, Eric &lt;[email protected]&gt;; Thinkpad &
>>> lt;[email protected]&gt;
>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 3:33 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] The new Ivy Bridge (Gen 3) laptops from Lenovo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You sure you want to buy one of the new ones?  Have you seen the
>>> keyboards?
>>>
>>> David
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>  From: "Cottrell, Eric" &lt;[email protected]&gt;
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:48 AM
>>>  To: &lt;[email protected]&gt;
>>>  Subject: [Thinkpad] The new Ivy Bridge (Gen 3) laptops from Lenovo
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am holding off upgrading my old T61 until the new Lenovo laptops are
>>> available with USB 3.0.  Today looks like the day, but some of the
>>> technical
>>> stuff is still not up on the website.
>>>
>>> I am doing more photography so I want an IPS panel.  It appears I need
>>> to go
>>> Full HD to get it, which means the T530 or W530. Some of the information
>>> is
>>> still fuzzy. I may wait until the psref sheets are released.
>>>
>>> 73 Eric
>>>
>>> Smart is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.  Wise is knowing better than
>>> to
>>> put one in a fruit salad.
>>>
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