TonyM wrote:
>
>
> Now based on my key role in building a private social network from 
> hundreds up to 45,000 staff in a large organisation, which somehow means 
> little to others, I have not got traction myself.
>

Tony, as Ste W. commented a primary issue is there are not so many of "us" 
here.

Re the 45 K, I'd love to know more. But as a number itself its a hint more 
than a depiction of significance? 

>
> *The null hypothosis*
> How many people use the forum version of GG?, that is the ONLY way I use 
> it, How many people use the archive? How many use the filters? Are we 
> realing using GG well.
>

I don't have stats. I can see though that a lot use email version. Some 
aspects of Web version they will miss. Especially REVISED posts.

>  
>
*The problem* is in my view finding out how to find a path for the 
> community to evaluate and choose.
>

The plain text archive version I'm seriously looking at to see if you you 
can interrogate it better than Web version. 

>
> When I built a Yammer forum (still available) ... it was not even given a 
> chance, even although I insisted it solved most if not all needs (after 
> reading everyone's comments). I believe I addressed a number of concerns in 
> the GG threads relating to it but we had no team evaluating it. 
>

Right. An issue can exist and be debated yet translation to action is 
another matter. 

I been very vocal on downsides here in GG. My main thought has devolved to *"GG 
makes tracking history hard. Very hard." That stands out as the singular 
issue here.*

BUT GG for direct discussion is excellent. Threading is relevant. 

BUT history is quickly lost.

There is a fundamental tension between "now" & "then". Now is fine, then is 
quickly gone.
 

> ... The key features in my mind about yammer I would like to see for this 
> community, is the ability to review all activity, but focus on special 
> interest groups ...
>

Its a good aim.  The issue with that, I think, is (1) not enough people & 
(2), likely most important, it looks like it would fragment things.

I also think worth noting the great recent collaboration developing the 
e-book version. That was NOT an open process. 3 developers linked up and 
just did it no one knew about till completed. Worked well.

Overall I'd guess that what is needed is really a better ONE group here but 
with decent past history tracking??

I do appreciate your thinking a lot on the issue, so thanks.

---

Now, regarding the OP, I'm still not sure its actually solvable under any 
circumstances. 
It was a limited pragmatic issue of how to isolate "innovations in TW edit 
mechanisms" for a few recent weeks.

So far that specific remains both elusive and, I think, a pertinent use 
case of lack of access to what you need. Is it solvable? Not sure.

Best wishes
TT

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