G'day bobj, I enjoyed reading your post very much. Fun to learn about something new (Toulmin argument structures), and really nice to browse that Cultural Conversations <http://cultconv.com/> site (and next surprise to find a couple of TiddlyWiki instances in there!) Aside: is it just me, or is there an inordinate amount of good stuff coming out of Australia?
Since Ted Nelson popped right into my conscious mind while reading your post, I had to immediately revisit a couple of videos I very much like and I share here for anybody's interest: - Ted Nelson on interconnectivity, writing <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0yECx0pNAA> - GREAT! QUOTABLE! The Writer's Problem! TN at Trinity U., Texas, ca 1989 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FqVqZXUFUQ> Although I really enjoy all of that lecture in the second link, I really perk up at this part (around 8:25): *"The problem that bothered me from the beginning was how to write. You have all these ideas you've been told of course that you write a paper by making all these file cards and then you spread them out and you say well this obviously goes first and this obviously goes first and that's the trouble: they all obviously come first and getting your thoughts in order for a term paper becomes extremely difficult, not because there's anything wrong with your mind. It's because there is no intrinsic right or wrong first idea and that's why writing is complicated: finding all the interconnections of the thoughts and putting them in a linear order is like the way we cut a hog to fit it in a deep freeze. You are hacking it to pieces and cutting those threads of interconnection in order to just make one set of interconnected connections on a single thread with a beginning and a middle and an end."* Which makes me think: that's the beauty of wikis and transclusion. Why would you not want to have all of the different beginnings and middles and ends that are useful for the different perspectives (narratives)? The thing that most caught my eye in your post: There is a great book, Mapping Hypertext, which details immediately the > issue with writing a hypertext style book (the book is written as a > hypertext). You very quickly become 'lost in hyperspace' and lose the > narrative. I suppose that is what really reminded me of Ted Nelson and that specific quote from his lecture. And really hits upon my greatest interest: getting fully *immersed* in the hyperspace of componentized information, and transcluding that information into aggregates (or contextual views, or contextual structures) so as to neither get lost nor lose any of the useful narrative*s* (and maybe even discover/create new ones). The various narratives are just various intertwingularities. That kind of stuff gets my juices flowing something silly. Along with posts that get me thinking intertwingled. Thanks !!! Cheers and best regards ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f92d5188-d254-4489-98ca-6af104796aadn%40googlegroups.com.
